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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 May 2025
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Meeting of the Parliament

National Care Service

Meeting date: 2 November 2022

Michelle Thomson

I want to put it on the record, as somebody who raised some of those points, that I am absolutely in favour of the national care service. It is the kind of audacious and ambitious project that we should be doing. However, I am carrying out my function of financial scrutiny, and other parties, such as the Tories, would do well to heed that.

Meeting of the Parliament

Emergency Budget Review

Meeting date: 2 November 2022

Michelle Thomson

The cabinet secretary is faced with two aspects of risk that are of particular concern. First, there is the uncertainty created by chaotic UK Government economic policies. Secondly, there is the undoubted harm that is about to be inflicted on the average citizen come the autumn statement from the Chancellor of the Exchequer. That the chancellor has taken advice from George Osborne, the architect of austerity, is no comfort on either front. Can the cabinet secretary indicate the basis of discussions with the latest UK chancellor? Indeed, has he been consulted by him at all?

Meeting of the Parliament

Road Improvements

Meeting date: 2 November 2022

Michelle Thomson

Absolutely—if Mr Carson can answer that point.

Meeting of the Parliament

Road Improvements

Meeting date: 2 November 2022

Michelle Thomson

The member fails to understand the fundamental point that I am making, which is about capital borrowing powers for this Parliament—the Scottish Parliament—in which the member sits and to which he should be contributing for the Scottish people.

I hope that all those who want, for the best of reasons, to hasten capital spending on projects such as road dualling will, equally, argue for increased borrowing powers to strengthen our capacity. If anyone else wants to intervene on that point, I am willing to take the intervention.

I would very much like the minister to address two questions in his summing up. First, will he outline the major impediments to publishing a timeline for completion of dualling the A9 and A96? Secondly, what is the current state of play regarding capital funding for the projects? Let us hope that we can get them back on the road to completion.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Michelle Thomson

Many of the areas that I wanted to probe have been covered by my colleagues. Mark Taylor, I quickly scanned through the Audit Scotland publication, “Radical Action needed on data”, which came out this morning. We are taking a top-down approach by looking at the financial memorandum of the National Care Service (Scotland) Bill, but I will look at it from the other side, where we know that we have issues around data. Are there any more general areas that pertain to our inquiry that you would like to pull out in the light of that paper?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Michelle Thomson

In relation to that paper, I assume that you made that call because, as you have described it, the appetite for data as a mechanism of driving change in Government is variable. Is that due to constraints, or lack of resources or understanding of how important data is as enabler? What is your sense of that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Michelle Thomson

You make clear your concerns about unmet need in your written submission.

I will finish off on some of the themes that everybody has raised. We all agree that this is a framework or enabling bill, and that it involves a huge and highly complex transformational project, with huge uncertainty in all the variables. In addition, there is the approach of using secondary legislation, which has been raised.

Knowing what we now know, and setting aside parliamentary processes—we probably want to discuss those separately—does any of you want to bring out any final things that should have been in the financial memorandum, even if that was with an amber alert stating, “We suspect this, but we cannot know, for the extremely good reasons that we have set out.” Have we captured everything thus far, either in your submissions or in the questioning?

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Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Michelle Thomson

Are there any last comments from Ralph Roberts or Hannah Tweed?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Michelle Thomson

I sense that you want to come in, Hannah.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Michelle Thomson

Ralph, do you have any final comments on that?