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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 21 January 2026
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Karen Adam

I invite the member to bring that up with the rest of the committee. We will have those discussions.

I thank the minister and her officials for joining us today.

That brings us to the conclusion of our session in public. We will now go into private to discuss the remaining items on our agenda.

12:38

Meeting continued in private until 12:45.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Karen Adam

Tess White will ask the next questions.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Karen Adam

We move on to questions from Maggie Chapman.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Karen Adam

Good morning, and welcome to the first meeting in 2026, in session 6, of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee. We have received apologies from Paul O’Kane, and Marie McNair will be joining us remotely.

Our only public agenda item is an evidence session following the committee’s report on the operation of the public sector equality duty in Scotland, which was published last year. Under the duty, public authorities in Scotland are legally required to consider equality when carrying out their functions. This morning, we will hear from the Equality and Human Rights Commission and the Minister for Equalities.

The witnesses on our first panel are representing the Equality and Human Rights Commission. I welcome John Wilkes, its head of Scotland, and Jennifer Laughland, its head of Scotland legal. Thank you for joining us.

I refer members to papers 1 and 2. Before we move to questions, I ask John Wilkes to make a brief opening statement, please.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Karen Adam

I will bring in Tess White.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Karen Adam

Pam Gosal has a question.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Karen Adam

Could I just come in? We have gone five minutes over the minister’s time. Minister, are you comfortable if Tess White wants to follow that up?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Karen Adam

Thank you very much.

We will move to questions. The committee found that the PSED is not delivering its aim to improve outcomes for people with protected characteristics. Why do you think that it has failed to achieve that?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Karen Adam

That brings this session to a close. I thank the witnesses once again for their evidence today. We will suspend briefly while we have a changeover of witnesses.

11:22

Meeting suspended.

11:24

On resuming—

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Karen Adam

Just to note that we are running out of time and Tess White still has her question to ask. We have to be quite sharp.