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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 July 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Karen Adam

For clarity, can I ask whether that would mean that trans men would go into female prisons and trans women would go into male prisons?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Karen Adam

So it is the diagnosis of—

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Karen Adam

What is the main risk?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Karen Adam

Because you mentioned my name, I will say that that may be because we are creating a safer society and it was not safe to come out back in the 1980s.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Karen Adam

It has gone up.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Karen Adam

You are speaking about safeguarding and you believe that the bigger risk is from a person with a penis. How does that come into play when there are safeguards for any kind of violent or threatening behaviour? I have met people in a prison in my constituency, and there is safeguarding in place there for anyone, regardless of gender. That would come into play anyway.

What about the risks to trans women in male prisons?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Karen Adam

That is the point of a GRC.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Karen Adam

We trust the people who run the prisons and the governors to have—

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Karen Adam

They have a lot of experience of providing safeguards.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Karen Adam

I agree that we have to be very careful. I also agree with what you said about gender stereotypes; after all, we have already talked about 6 foot 2 people with beards, and I know cisgendered women who are 6 foot 2 and cisgendered women who have facial hair—