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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 20 May 2025
Karen Adam
Thank you. That brings our first session to a close, and I suspend the meeting briefly while we change over witnesses.
10:35 Meeting suspended.Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 20 May 2025
Karen Adam
Would the witnesses like to say anything that they have not said so far?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 20 May 2025
Karen Adam
Are members content that they have asked everything that they wished to ask?
Members: Yes.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 15 May 2025
Karen Adam
When you come into Parliament as a new MSP, you are presented with emails from people asking to be elected as DPO, and you have to undertake scrutiny of those individuals to know and understand them a bit better, which will, in turn, inform your decision as to whom to vote for. That gives a bit of an insight as to why it might be best for those who know the individuals better to make that decision.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 15 May 2025
Karen Adam
Yes.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 15 May 2025
Karen Adam
On the point about induction and training, and the experience that members can bring to committees, I think that there is a part for political parties to play prior to members being elected and coming to the Scottish Parliament. That education should begin at the vetting stage and continue when candidates are in place. The understanding of how our democratic institution works is beneficial to all of society anyway, but it is important that people have that basic knowledge in the first place, before they get to Parliament.
Induction, training and on-going professional development are very helpful. Often, we look at a bill for a good few weeks and then we step in to do a bit of post-legislative scrutiny, so the hat that we wear changes, and we have to shift focus. On-going skills development is helpful for everybody on committees.
Emotional intelligence is also important, as is knowing how to recognise the effectiveness of respectful scrutiny—that is how we get the best from the witnesses. A rounded approach to training and induction, both pre-election and on-going when members are here, is important to ensure that we have the most effective committees.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 15 May 2025
Karen Adam
I must say that there is always plenty of work. There is a long list of things that we would love to work on. Although we found ourselves with an open work programme, it was great to be able to have that discussion. We regularly have work programme discussions. Having been on other committees, I can say that we seem to do more of that on the equalities committee. Topical issues often come up, and it is important to have the space for that.
It has also given us the opportunity to add in more post-legislative scrutiny—for example, I am excited to see that we will be doing an inquiry on the British Sign Language (Scotland) Act 2015 in June—and the space to have broader discussions on things. We had stage 2 of the Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill, which involved—I think—600 amendments, and that took up quite a bit of time. So, we have found that timing and capacity can be equally challenging for a committee.
It has afforded us the ability to open up other streams of work.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 15 May 2025
Karen Adam
I am just saying that it was a good example of cross-party working. We can look at the culture that was cultivated in that debate and carry that mindset through into the committees, knowing that we are all working towards a common purpose of creating the best outcomes and the best law and of scrutinising topics in the best way. We can think about practical things such as working together on work programmes and having away days, but it is important to look at pulling the topical politics out of that.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 15 May 2025
Karen Adam
It is really hard to prioritise things that are all a priority. That is why the committees are set up. However, I would say that the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee is an exceptionally important committee, because its remit overarches and goes through each of those priorities. At the equalities committee, we have seen things on our desk that could sit with the education committee, the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee or the Criminal Justice Committee. Our work—particularly our scrutiny of human rights budgeting—overarches everything. When we really look at how that budgeting works, and people with lived experience come into the committee and give evidence on what it looks like for them, it is exceptionally powerful. It reaches through every part of their lives.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 15 May 2025
Karen Adam
The rurality aspect has been a particular focus of our committee’s scrutiny over the past four years, including how that impedes a person’s access to any type of public service and their human rights. Although people might think that the subjects that the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee and the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee look at are very different, our remit overarches rurality as well.