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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 7 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Jackie Dunbar

Minister, I am listening very closely to what you are saying. My reason for lodging the amendments was genuinely to tighten up procedures.

To go back to the fly-tipping situation, I, like Mr Lumsden, did not know about the rules and regulations before I joined the committee. Even though I was a local councillor for 15 years, I still did not realise what they were. If someone were able to show that they had done their best to ensure that they had asked an authorised person to pick up their bulky waste—it was bulky waste that I was speaking about, mostly—they could, if someone came to them and said that their stuff had been fly-tipped, say, “Well, this is the certificate or licence number that I got from the person who said that they were authorised to do so.” That would have a knock-on effect on trying to catch the fly-tippers. That is where I was coming from, but, given what you have been saying, I now realise that there might be a lot more work to do, and I am happy to work with you at stage 3, if you think that the amendment is feasible.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Jackie Dunbar

I have lodged amendment 160 in response to recommendations that were made in the committee’s stage 1 report. This amendment aims to ensure that Scottish ministers are required to consult local authorities in their role as waste collection authorities during the preparation of any guidance in relation to the new fixed penalty and civil penalty regime for the enforcement of household waste requirements. Local authorities will be responsible for delivering the enforcement action that will be enabled by those new powers, and their input will be critical to ensuring that guidance is practical and effective. Guaranteeing that local government is consulted ensures that that valuable perspective is captured and reflected. I urge the committee to support amendment 160.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Jackie Dunbar

I declare my interest as a former local councillor on Aberdeen City Council, because I realise that local authorities are being discussed at this time.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Jackie Dunbar

You called it a cloth bum; I call it a hippin. Do you agree that there is absolutely nothing wrong with going back in time to ensure that the future for our young ones is preserved?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Jackie Dunbar

Will the minister take an intervention?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

Jackie Dunbar

You said that the targets must be reported on and reviewed. Do you mean that the targets should be changed annually or that we should review our progress on the targets on an annual basis? Those are two separate things. I might be misunderstanding.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

Jackie Dunbar

The question that I asked was not whether it would come from the Scottish Government, but which of its budgets it would come from. If you would be happy to answer that one, that would be quite good.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

Jackie Dunbar

I am listening intently to what you are saying about the recycling targets. As part of a local authority before, I was in a group that delved down into the issue. As the local authorities are pushing the reduce, reuse, recycle message, do you think that reuse and reduce, if those figures go up, could actually have an impact on the recycling targets? Folk might not be putting stuff in their bins to recycle because they have reduced their consumption or are reusing—like Mr Macpherson’s iron that we were discussing earlier. Would you agree that those kinds of targets will have an impact on the recycling targets? I do not know how we would measure that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

Jackie Dunbar

Will Mr Simpson take an intervention?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

Jackie Dunbar

You are saying that the Scottish Government should be fined. Which budget would that come out of?