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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 13 March 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Jackie Dunbar

So, that is a cautious yes—as long as more detail is provided.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Jackie Dunbar

It sounds as though teachers are saying what they said to us during stage 1, which is that things are voluntary but not voluntary. I do not think that matters, including whether teachers have caring responsibilities, were addressed then. How would such issues be addressed? I am going off topic a little bit.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Jackie Dunbar

I am sorry, but I did not quite catch what the process would be. Could you say that again?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Jackie Dunbar

Well, you just never know, and I just do not want that to be—

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Jackie Dunbar

Good morning and thank you for coming along.

I will ask about the proposed changes to children’s hearings. Responses to the suggestion that single-member panels be introduced have been split. Some people are for them and some are against. What are your views on the proposal and on what level of decision a single-person panel should take?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Jackie Dunbar

You touched briefly on this, but what are your views on whether remuneration or paid allowances should be introduced?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Jackie Dunbar

Fiona Duncan or Fraser McKinlay, do you have different opinions, or would you like to offer up anything else? If not, I will pass back to the convener.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Jackie Dunbar

See, convener—I am quick.

Meeting of the Parliament

Relationships and Behaviour in Schools

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Jackie Dunbar

The importance of the contribution of pupils feeling supported towards improving their behaviour in schools cannot be overestimated. Will the minister speak further on how the Scottish Government’s 2025-26 budget is delivering measures to assist young folk throughout every stage of their school experience?

Meeting of the Parliament

Water Industry Commission for Scotland (2022-23 and 2023-24 Audits)

Meeting date: 4 September 2025

Jackie Dunbar

I, too, thank the committee for the hard work that was put into the report.

We are here to discuss audits of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland, but it would be remiss of me not to reflect on some other aspects of water in Scotland, given the public coverage that there was over the recess. In case colleagues do not recall it, I remind them that the UK environment secretary, Steve Reed, made some very daft comments—in my opinion—about Scottish water. He claimed wrongly that pollution levels are worse in Scotland than in England. I would expect better from a UK minister than to share such misleading claims, to talk down Scotland and to talk down the value of Scottish Water being in public hands in the process.

I am not going to suggest that everything to do with water in Scotland is perfect. Clearly, we have a report in front of us that recognises what has not gone right—in this case, in the Water Industry Commission for Scotland. However, I want to make clear a few things that are undeniable. In Scotland, we have less pollution in our waterways than England has. A recent report found that 66 per cent—two thirds—of Scotland’s water bodies are of good ecological status, compared with just 16.1 per cent in England and 29.9 per cent in Wales.

Moreover, water bills are lower. Water bills in Scotland average just £490 compared with £603 across England. In addition, Scottish Water being in Scotland’s hands is working because public ownership means not having to pay out millions in dividends. As a result, it costs folk less to have the cleaner water that we have in Scotland.

My final point is that tap water in Scotland is tastier. I have tried tap water in other places and it has not been that great. When we get to a tap in Scotland, especially in the north-east and the Highlands, and pour ourselves a glass of cold, crisp Scottish water, we soon find out that it is delicious.

Having covered that off and said my piece about Scottish Water, I want to go on to the substance of the report. It highlights a number of failures at the Water Industry Commission for Scotland—which I am going to call WICS from now on, as I just stumbled over saying it. There were a number of financial management and governance failures at the commission; there was retrospective authorisation of high-cost training; there were improper staff gifts; there were weak financial controls; there were cultural issues with bullying; and there was a lack of challenge to leadership. All of those things were unacceptable. We expect our public bodies to have the highest standards, and that was not the case here.

I am pleased that the Scottish Government has acted decisively by strengthening the WICS board, resetting the organisation from the top down and appointing interim members to get the organisation on a path to rebuilding public trust. The report is part of that process, too.