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Private Landlord Registration (Modification) (Scotland) Order 2009 (Draft)
Good morning, and welcome to the second meeting in 2009 of the Local Government and Communities Committee. I ask members and the public to turn off all mobile phones and BlackBerrys.
Private landlord registration is a key strand of the Scottish Government's wider policy framework for the private rented sector. It is designed to increase standards of management and property condition across the sector and, by doing so, to reinforce the positive contribution that the sector makes to meeting housing need in Scotland.
Good morning, minister. Are you satisfied that the period of six months for which registration is deferred is sufficient for a trustee in bankruptcy to complete the process of vesting his interim or transitory title to the property into the hands of a third party, whether that is a purchaser or some other party? In other words, is it sufficient time to complete the process, as far as the rented property is concerned, of administration of the bankrupt's estate?
Yes, I am satisfied. As far as I am aware, no incidents have been brought to our attention in which that has caused any difficulties. The exemption that we are introducing will bring insolvency practitioners into line with the other categories that are exempt for a six-month period. If people have transitory ownership for more than six months, it is reasonable to assume that that is not quite as transitory as the legislation originally intended, and that people should register. Six months is a reasonable period in which to complete the business in hand and, unless Mr McLetchie has any particular problems in mind, I am not aware that we have received any complaints about that.
I am slightly surprised that six months is thought to be sufficient, since any bankruptcy with which I have had dealings—not my own, I hasten to add—suggests that the administration process can take a good deal longer than six months. The executor of a deceased person does not have to render an account to HM Revenue and Customs in respect of the deceased's estate—an integral part of the confirmation process—until six months have elapsed after the death. In other words, in the case of a deceased person, often the executor will not have even a transitory title until more than six months have elapsed since the death. That leads me to question whether a period of six months is adequate for the purpose of executors and trustees in bankruptcy. If you believe in the principle of an exemption for transitory ownership, would it not be more appropriate for that exemption to apply for, say, a year? That would be a more normal timescale within which an executor would obtain title.
We have consulted widely on the proposed changes and we did not receive any feedback that that is an issue for the category that you mention. Given that we have just held that consultation and that people were able to provide information or to comment, I am not sure that there is an issue around what you have described. In the responses, there was 69 per cent agreement that the change should be made for insolvency practitioners. We did not get any feedback that the six-month period would be problematic.
Is there anything in the legislation to prevent people from voluntarily registering as insolvency practitioners or executors in that six-month period?
No.
In effect, if people thought that they might hold the asset for much longer than six months because of the process of liquidation, bankruptcy or administration of the estate, they could come along and say that they are likely to be landed with the landlord role for the property earlier, so they will just register now and get that administrative process out of the way. Is that right?
Yes, they could.
Convener, are we asking questions on all the instruments at this stage?
No. The minister made some comments on the negative instruments, but we will deal with them at the appropriate time.
Motion moved,
That the Local Government and Communities Committee recommends that the draft Private Landlord Registration (Modification) (Scotland) Order 2009 be approved.—[Stewart Maxwell.]
Motion agreed to.
Private Landlord Registration (Advice and Assistance) (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 2008 (SSI 2008/402)<br />Private Landlord Registration (Information and Fees) (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 2008 (SSI 2008/403)
Agenda item 3 is consideration of two negative Scottish statutory instruments, to which the minister referred as they are linked to the affirmative instrument that we have just considered. Do members have any questions?
I seek clarification on fees. If a landlord applies to the scheme but is refused registration, does a period of time have to elapse before he or she can reapply? If so, do they have to pay a fee when they reapply? What is that fee?
Yes, there is a time lag. They cannot reapply for a period of 12 months.
Do they then have to pay the fee again?
Yes.
Private landlords pay a fee of £11 per property; I think that that is quite a small amount, although I am not suggesting that it should be more. Might the minister think about increasing that fee in the future and using the money for other purposes in regulating the sector?
The registration fee is higher than that—it is £55—and there is an individual property fee beyond that. We keep those fees under review and the expectation is that the scheme, overall, will be self-financing. It is clear, from the evidence that we have received so far, that it remains the expectation that local authorities' income from the scheme will cover—and possibly more than cover—the administration costs of the scheme. No cost will be incurred to the public purse as a result of the scheme.
There are no further questions. Do members agree that we do not wish to make any recommendation in relation to SSI 2008/402 and SSI 2008/403?
Members indicated agreement.
I thank the minister and his officials for their attendance. I suspend the meeting—[Interruption.] Oh, yes—we have another item to consider. However, the minister can go. I was too anxious to get my coffee.
Local Government (Allowances and Expenses) (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 2008 (SSI 2008/414)<br />Local Governance (Scotland) Act 2004 (Remuneration) Amendment Regulations 2008 (SSI 2008/415)
Agenda item 4 is consideration of two further negative instruments.
I wish to make a declaration of interests in relation to the issues that are covered by the regulations before us. I am an elected member of a local authority, for which I receive no allowances, expenses or remuneration. However, I receive an in-kind contribution towards the cost of a mobile phone, which is noted in my declaration of interests.
Thank you, John. Do members agree that we do not wish to make any recommendation in relation to SSI 2008/414 and SSI 2008/415??
Members indicated agreement.
I suspend the meeting for a short period until the Minister for Transport, Infrastructure and Climate Change is available. He might be here before 11 o'clock, but we have time for a coffee before he arrives.
Meeting suspended.
On resuming—