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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 26 February 2026
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Food Standards Scotland and the First National Good Food Nation Plan

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Brian Whittle

Good morning. This is my pet topic as well. I want to talk about the food system and population health priorities, which should drive everything that we do in this area. I completely agree with Geoff Ogle about measuring childhood health.

I have a real concern about how the reduction in the consumption of red meat is being discussed and the potential impact on health. I am not even sure what the term “meat” means—you have referred to both “meat” and “processed meat”. Surely we should be reducing the consumption of processed meat rather than the consumption of meat in general. Two thirds of people do not have enough protein in their diet, and I am particularly concerned about young girls, given their need for iron and iodine, which meat provides. Yes, too much red meat is bad for you, but too little is really bad for you as well.

How we discuss the issue concerns me, because we seem to be focused on, as one of my colleagues mentioned, the climate impact, which I also challenge. My fear is that our approach is driving poor diets to become even worse. There must be a better way of discussing the issue.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Food Standards Scotland and the First National Good Food Nation Plan

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Brian Whittle

Correct.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Brian Whittle

There have been significant increases in the cost of delivering personal and nursing care, so any increase in funding is valuable and welcome. Minister, you indicated the potential financial constraints on delivering any more funding. My worry is that not delivering more funding is a false economy, because the costs will appear on another page of the ledger if we do not get this right. What work has been done, not just on this specific issue but across the wider portfolio, to assess the impact of not delivering what could be delivered?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Food Standards Scotland and the First National Good Food Nation Plan

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Brian Whittle

We are kind of agreeing here, I think.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Brian Whittle

Do you agree that, by investing in social care, we could prevent much more costly interventions, including hospital interventions? There is an issue in how we balance funding and how we measure the outcomes from inputs.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Brian Whittle

My concerns are similar to those of my colleague Sandesh Gulhane. At the end of the day, I will vote in favour of approving the instrument because any uplift is crucial. However, what we are discussing is in no way reflective of what is required. As has been rehearsed by my colleague, huge amounts of money have been spent in other areas. If we are going to tackle the issues in social care and the connections with delayed discharge and prevent people from having to go into hospital care, we are going to have to think about it much more seriously than we currently are.

I will vote for the uplift, but I want to put those comments on record, because I do not think that the measures provide nearly what we need to do to tackle the issues that we have at the moment.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Brian Whittle

If the Care Inspectorate is inspecting against a code of practice that is not legally binding, what enforcement powers would it have?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Food Standards Scotland and the First National Good Food Nation Plan

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Brian Whittle

I am, slightly.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Food Standards Scotland and the First National Good Food Nation Plan

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Brian Whittle

It is not the 70g limit that worries me. I go back to Geoff Ogle’s point about those of us who have crept over 50—some of us have crept over 60. I suggest that the people in this room understand diet a lot better than the majority of the population.

I come from a time when, 50 years ago, the standard diet was meat, veg and potatoes, and there was a lot less obesity back then than there is now. I suggest that we are focusing on the wrong thing. We should be focusing on what has happened in the interim—fast food and the increase in salt, sugar and fat—rather than what we have just discussed.

We are going to have an argument about climate change soon, because I do not agree with that either. It is about getting back to the basics of eating what we grow and produce in our country.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Food Standards Scotland and the First National Good Food Nation Plan

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Brian Whittle

We are very good at producing dairy, beef, root vegetables and fruit. If we can go back to a basic diet, it would solve a lot of the issues.