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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 3 July 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Children’s and Young People’s Participation in Sport and Physical Activity

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

Brian Whittle

The frustration for me when we are talking about having significant restrictions on the ability to invest is that we do not have an audit of facilities, whether those be community or school facilities, therefore we do not know what spare capacity is available in the structures that we currently have. We keep talking about investing in new facilities, yet we cannot gather the data to say where the spare capacity might be. Surely that is where we should start.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Children’s and Young People’s Participation in Sport and Physical Activity

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

Brian Whittle

I am pleased that physical inactivity has been mentioned. As Jillian Gibson said, the issue is having the data. Quite frankly, data showing that kids have participated in sport at least once a week provides a very poor data link when it is matched against physical inactivity, physical literacy and the rise in obesity. The trend shows that there has been a reduction in the number of times that people participate in physical activity. The data also does not show that a cohort of children will participate in several different sports in a week. Given the barriers and what influences participation, how do we change those trends?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Children’s and Young People’s Participation in Sport and Physical Activity

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

Brian Whittle

I recognise that we want to have a pathway for getting kids involved at school, with links into the community, but the reality is that the figures tell us that that is not happening at the level at which we want it to happen. How do we change that?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Children’s and Young People’s Participation in Sport and Physical Activity

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

Brian Whittle

On that point, one of the most dangerous phrases that we can use is “in my day”, but we can mark the decline of sport from the late 1970s through the teachers strike in the 1980s. Here it is—in my day, in Ayrshire, there were 36 teams playing rugby; now, there are six. That is a clear decline. We cannot go back to where it was, with teachers running sports teams and so on in their own time. It would be very difficult to go back to that, so we need to find another vehicle that gives kids the opportunity to be physically active and to participate in sport, if that is what they want to do. How do we do it?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Children’s and Young People’s Participation in Sport and Physical Activity

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

Brian Whittle

I have been listening intently to what you have been saying. I want to talk about the role of sport. Jillian Gibson, you started the conversation about the impact that physical activity can have on the community and about the culture of being involved. I was interested in the figure that you gave of inactivity costing £77 million per year. I have heard that figure before and I think that it is a massive underestimation, given things such as the impact of the lack of physical activity on mental ill-health, which has exploded. Further, obesity costs the Scottish economy over £5 billion in musculoskeletal conditions, heart disease and economic inactivity. I am interested in that. I am always trying to work out where that £77 million figure came from, because I think that it is a massive underestimation.

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We have also talked about sport reaching across portfolios. We know that being physically active will have a positive impact on health outcomes and a positive impact in decreasing the pressure on our health service. However, it also has impacts on education, welfare and justice—it has impacts on all those different things. Given that as a background, do the witnesses think that there is a policy vacuum in terms of the importance of physical activity? We have talked about that, and you have agreed that physical activity is important, but do you think that there is a policy vacuum in relation to sport in Scotland? Could we have more focused policy development in that area? I ask Jillian Gibson to answer first.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Children’s and Young People’s Participation in Sport and Physical Activity

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

Brian Whittle

I will layer something on top of that. You mentioned school-based and non-school-based participation. It strikes me that, if kids want to participate in sport these days, they have to go home and then go somewhere else, because there has been a significant reduction in extracurricular activity in schools. Has that had an influence? Do we need to try to reverse that trend?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Children’s and Young People’s Participation in Sport and Physical Activity

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

Brian Whittle

Gregor Muir, how do we bring the national governing bodies into the framework?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Children’s and Young People’s Participation in Sport and Physical Activity

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

Brian Whittle

There you go.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Children’s and Young People’s Participation in Sport and Physical Activity

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

Brian Whittle

How should we reflect on the lack of progress?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Children’s and Young People’s Participation in Sport and Physical Activity

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

Brian Whittle

Again, I recognise that we should be providing that pathway, but the truth of the matter is that many clubs have waiting lists. That is a fairly recent trend. If there are children who want to participate but are being prevented from participating because of a waiting list, how does that play into the overall picture?