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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 11 December 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Finlay Carson

Yes.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Finlay Carson

Thank you.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Finlay Carson

I would like to intervene. I am finding it difficult to understand how we can avoid potential conflict. For example, there might be multiple land users, and one land manager decides to have a land management plan that requires a very low density of deer. If that land management plan is accepted, do all the surrounding landowners have to control their deer as a result? Who decides, before enforcement comes in, whether that land management plan is reasonable? It is all very well to say that we can sit round the table, but, if one land management plan suggests that the maximum density is one deer per hectare, based on restoring some type of habitat, who decides whether that is reasonable or whether the impact on adjacent landowners is reasonable?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Finlay Carson

Is “voluntary control scheme” not a bit of an oxymoron? The word “control” says it all. There will be points where the voluntary part of it disappears and it is about control. My question is along similar lines to Mark Ruskell’s: what safeguards are there when those controls, rather than voluntary methods, come in?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Finlay Carson

It is my understanding that the app that you referred to is a pilot. Is it your intention to bring it in across the whole country, and potentially mandate its use?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Finlay Carson

Is it not the case that those schemes or incentives would be almost impossible to roll out nationwide, given the cost?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Finlay Carson

I am not concerned about the potential expansion of the rights of the tenant, but there need to be safeguards to ensure that the rights are subject to some authorisation, so that we do not get to a situation where tenants and landowners are shooting at night and that gives rise to a safety concern. Should the legislation not mandate for that authorisation to be notified in order to exclude that possibility? Rather than being about taking away the tenant’s rights, it is more about putting the public safety of the tenant and the landowner first.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Finlay Carson

As no other members wish to speak, I invite Edward Mountain to wind up and to press or withdraw amendment 132.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Finlay Carson

I propose that we have a comfort break and resume at 19:50.

19:44 Meeting suspended.  

19:54 On resuming—  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Finlay Carson

We continue our consideration of amendments at stage 2.

Section 12—Code of practice on deer management

Amendments 219, 220, 329 and 222 not moved.

Section 12 agreed to.

Section 13—Grounds for intervention

Amendment 223 moved—[Tim Eagle].