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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 30 April 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Finlay Carson

Is the minister content with the bill’s current wording in relation to relationship breakdown?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Finlay Carson

Specifically, though, given our understanding that the common-law offence of breach of the peace is being replaced by the use of the section 38 offence, do you think that there will be a similar trend in respect of dog theft? Will we see more people being prosecuted under the section 38 offence?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Finlay Carson

In his letter to the committee, Maurice Golden quotes evidence that shows that the common-law offence of breach of the peace has, increasingly, been replaced by an offence under section 38 of the Criminal Justice and Licensing (Scotland) Act 2010. He then goes on to say that

“it is likely that there will be a similar trend in respect of the theft of a dog”.

Do you agree with that assumption?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Finlay Carson

Thank you. We will move on to our final questions, which are on the financial memorandum.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Finlay Carson

I have one final question on Police Scotland recording the data. Mr Wilson responded to an earlier question on that.

Would the Scottish Government consider amending the crime recording standard to require dog theft to be recorded as a specific stand-alone offence, rather than as an offence of robbery, theft or housebreaking?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Finlay Carson

Those are some fantastic reasons for the need for a consolidation bill to pull all of that together, Mr Wilson. You might consider that for the next parliamentary session. When that was suggested to our clerks at the beginning of the meeting, they almost had nervous breakdowns, but it is maybe something that the Government can take on board.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Finlay Carson

Minister, it would be helpful to the committee if you could provide a written update on the work of the advisory group and where we are with licensing.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Finlay Carson

I have a brief supplementary on that. Police Scotland suggested that

“The introduction of a standalone statutory offence of Dog Theft would not enhance accuracy of crime recording as the theft may be committed in commission of another crime”.

Could the bill be amended in some way to ensure that that data is collected? I suppose that that is a question for Jim Wilson.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Finlay Carson

What would need to be done to publicise the new law, if it were to come into force, to have that deterrent effect? Does there need to be something on that in the legislation? A huge part of Christine Grahame’s Welfare of Dogs (Scotland) Bill was about public awareness raising. Do we need to have that level of public awareness raising of this potential new law, to create the deterrent effect that Maurice Golden seeks?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Finlay Carson

Good morning, and welcome to the 13th meeting in 2025 of the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee. Please ensure that all electronic devices are switched to silent mode.

Our first item of business is to take evidence on the Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill from the Minister for Victims and Community Safety, Siobhian Brown, who is accompanied by a Scottish Government official. I also welcome Maurice Golden to the meeting for this item.

We have 90 minutes for this evidence session. Before we move to questions, I should make the witnesses aware—as they will already be—that they do not need to operate the microphones. That will be done for them.

I draw members’ attention to Maurice Golden’s response to a letter from the committee that asked specific questions on the bill. The Scottish Government highlighted similar points in its memorandum to the bill, so I hope that we can move the issue forward over the course of this morning’s evidence session.

Moving to our questions, I note that Maurice Golden believes that a stand-alone statutory offence would address what are, historically, low levels of cases of and prosecutions for dog theft. The committee has heard conflicting evidence on the ability of the common law offence to adequately take account of the harm caused to the owner—and, to some extent, the dog—following a dog theft. What are your views on the necessity of a specific stand-alone offence in that context?