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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 29 June 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

“Cumbersome” in a way that the colleges can no longer afford it?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

You said that the number was declining “until recently”. I have seen figures that show that it was up at 6,500 a couple of years ago, and that it then fell to 5,500. I have now seen a paper that projects 5,360. However, you are saying that there will be 5,800, which will be an 18 per cent increase in applications. Are you saying that the 5,360 figure is wrong?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

Of the £15 million, how much is for administration?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

I would love to go into some of the issues relating to the transformation board, because there are challenges with that, too. I have been given a lot of this information by your colleges from across UHI, because they do not feel that they have had answers to these questions. What we have heard today is that there is a lot more to be done. I welcome your commitment to look at the top slice, because the issue has been raised in the chamber with the minister, particularly in relation to Perth, but all your colleges provide a significant amount of money to the executive office. From what they tell me, they are not seeing a return on that, so I welcome the fact that that will be looked at.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

What do you think it is, roughly? This is the money that you spend running your operation.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

The next item of business is to take evidence from a panel of witnesses on the financial sustainability of Scotland’s colleges. I welcome to the meeting from Colleges Scotland Angela Cox, chair of the college principals group, and Andy Witty, director of strategic policy and corporate governance. I also welcome Joanna Campbell, principal and chief executive of Glasgow Kelvin College, Professor Wayne Powell, principal and chief executive of Scotland’s Rural College, and Vicki Nairn, principal and vice-chancellor of the University of the Highlands and Islands. I welcome you all to the committee.

I will start off with Mr Witty and Ms Cox. At the start of the year, we had ministers in front of us to discuss the budget, and they felt that the budget that the Scottish Government delivered was good for Scotland’s colleges. However, Colleges Scotland had told the committee that the budget was

“deeply disappointing for Scotland’s 24 colleges”,

that

“the sector’s call for greater investment had been overlooked”,

that

“This shortfall will have far-reaching implications for Scotland’s economic recovery”

and that

“this funding cut poses significant challenges.”

Who is right? Is it Colleges Scotland, who said all that, or the ministers who said that this was a good budget for the college sector?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

What have you and the RSB done to resolve that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

I note that you did not ask me, as a former student, to contribute to that, but maybe my progression has not been as good as that of others who have gone through the Scottish Agricultural College and SRUC model.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

What has been the saving as a result of that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

Therefore, your £15 million figure was previously more than £20 million.