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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 10 October 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

What I am hearing this morning is that it will be the third-generation fuels—the e-fuels—that will dominate and will be the future as we move forward, because of the potential conflict with growing biofeedstocks.

However, what might happen in, say, 10 or 20 years down the line, in a world in which the whole of society is electrified, and where we have electric-battery surface transport, hydrogen being used, electric heating and so on? All of those things are going to create a huge demand for generation. Our briefing notes suggest that, if we wanted to fully lean into e-fuels for aviation, we would need seven to eight times more electricity-generating capacity in the UK than we had in 2020.

It is not exactly the same situation as it is with biofuel, where you are competing with food and obviously there are limits to the amount of land that we have, but do you acknowledge that there will be a point where, even with renewable electricity generation, we will hit the buffers, because everything will be electrified and the need for generation is going to double, treble, quadruple or—potentially—quintuple in the years ahead? Do you have any thoughts on that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

I want to ask about the broader context, particularly around the changes in the UK emissions trading scheme, such as the withdrawal of the free allocation, and the international carbon trading scheme, which is the carbon offsetting and reduction scheme for international aviation—CORSIA. Do you think that the changes will have a significant impact on emissions reduction? How do you see those measures working? Celeste, I will start with you, and then I will take some views from around the panel.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

Are runway expansions, expansions in capacity and so on in any way compatible with our climate targets, given the ETS, SAF and other attempts to try to curb emissions?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

Do others want to come in?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

I am fine. Thanks, convener.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

Would anyone else like to come in on those questions? You will have to put your hand up, and then the convener will let you in.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

I think that Sebastian Eastham wanted to come in, too.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

That is fine, convener. I will maybe come back in later.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

Obviously, that legislation has had a cultural impact on the way that businesses operate.

I am interested in you addressing the question whether you think that an ecocide law would effectively encourage Scottish Government regulatory bodies to review existing legislation. I think that perhaps the assumption in this room is that Scotland’s environmental legislation is fit for purpose, but is that your view?

I am aware that, for example, the legislation for mineral permissions goes back to 1974, so there is the adoption in that case of regulations that, arguably, many communities believe are not fit for purpose in the modern world. What is your overall view of environmental legislation in Scotland? Do you think that an ecocide bill such as this one would drive reform? Is reform needed?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

Shivali Fifield, do you want to come back in on that point?