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He would not obtain signatures without signatories understanding what they were signing. It is important to get this on the record so that you get a chance to respond on the record.
There seems to be no dissent from that, so we will see whether we can get someone to address us on the issue.I thank Des McNulty for attending the meeting.
It would take at least two to three years—probably three—to get the staff up to anything like to the standard they set at Peterhead and to get the prison environment anywhere near to what exists at Peterhead.