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Before we begin, I make it clear that I do not want this process to become a debate between lobbying companies about who is the best—a virility test about what association or group best conforms to our standards.
I ask the clerks whether they will produce a discussion paper, or whether we will just discuss the bill ourselves—what is the best way forward? We are in the committee's hands.
We need to be honest about the fact that the committee has made a decision. We did our best and now we should move on and leave the ball very firmly in the minister's court.
In my opinion, there is some evidence, but I am not an expert in those species. It would be best to consult a zoologist who has knowledge of pain perception in those species.
Nevertheless, tendering may or may not be the best way to meet the obligation. When I wrote the paper, that question was unresolved; to a certain extent, it still is.