When trade unions that represent staff and others tell us that the problems are real, we have to take what they say seriously not because we want to protect the positions of the civilian staff—not the warranted officers or firefighters—who do a fantastic job in those services but because we do not want the Scottish Government’s pledge to maintain police numbers to result in more back-room bobbies rather than police officers out on the beat.I am keen to hear the minister’s comments on those critical issues and look forward to stage 2 and further debate on many of the issues that we have discussed.11:26...