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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 7 June 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Gillian Martin

Our second evidence-taking session focuses on the independent review of adult social care, which was commissioned by the Scottish Government. Certain recommendations from the review have been incorporated into the National Care Service (Scotland) Bill and accompanying policy memorandum.

I welcome to the committee Derek Feeley, the former chair of the independent review. We will move straight to questions.

The case for a national care service formed a number of recommendations in your report. I will run through them for everyone who is watching. You said that

“Accountability for social care support should move ... to Scottish Ministers”

and that a

“national care service for Scotland should be established in statute”

that would

“oversee local commissioning and procurement”

of all the services—there is a list of services that should come under its remit.

You also said that it

“should oversee social care provision at national level for people whose needs are very complex”

and that the

“driving focus should be improvements in the consistency, quality and equity of care and support experienced by service users, their families and carers”,

as well as

“improvements in the conditions of employment, training and development of the workforce.”

Does the bill encapsulate those recommendations?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Gillian Martin

That is contrary to what we have heard. You are hearing that people want the pace to increase and then to be maintained, yet some people—including witnesses today and last week—are calling for a pause. How does that square with what you are hearing from people?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Gillian Martin

James Dornan has a question.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Gillian Martin

Our next theme is on keeping things local. The questions will be led by Evelyn Tweed.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Gillian Martin

Thank you. We are rapidly running out of time and have about 10 minutes left in this session. Our final theme is on rural areas. Sandesh Gulhane will lead the questions.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Gillian Martin

That is very helpful. The final questions are from Emma Harper.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Gillian Martin

Stephanie Callaghan has questions on ethical commissioning, which we have spoken about a little.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Gillian Martin

We move on to questions about community health, which will be led by Paul O’Kane

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Gillian Martin

Tess, can I stop you? We do not have time for multiple questions. I will come back to you.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Gillian Martin

Patricia Cassidy wants to come in.