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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 7 November 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 December 2024

John Mason

At the moment, parents—better-off parents, obviously—contribute some of the money, and schools fundraise for some of the other kids. Some of the £30 million that the Government would be paying would go not to the centres or the kids but, in effect, to parents—it would save better-off parents money. I have a slight problem with that. If parents are willing to contribute several million pounds a year at the moment—we probably do not have the figures, but I assume that it is about that much—is it fair to suddenly save those parents a lot of money?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 December 2024

John Mason

You mentioned transport. I made the effort by using my bus pass to get to West Linton on Monday, and that was successful. The buses are not all that frequent, but the journey worked fine. A 45 or 50-minute bus journey from Edinburgh followed by a 20-minute walk in December was okay. Are there ways in which schools and everybody else could save on transport costs by using bus passes more?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

John Mason

Is it a legal requirement in Australia that people pay more wages?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

John Mason

Over a year.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

John Mason

Yes, it is difficult, but we have had a similar problem in this committee with a range of bills. I take your point that, normally, the committee is looking at costs perhaps being underestimated and savings perhaps being overestimated, and I am looking at it the other way round. However, we expect to see best estimates in the financial memorandum.

Presumably, there is evidence from around the world. It cannot be proved when someone would have died otherwise, but there must be estimates as to how much before the expected point of death they have died. It seems to me that there would be savings, and that is one of my concerns.

Although I take your point that doctors will not be making decisions or recommendations or giving advice based on financial factors, it is part of the system that we are all in a very cost-driven society. The state pension would be one cost, but if somebody was in hospital, I think that there would be a cost of perhaps £300 a day for being in hospital, so, for a week, we would be talking about a cost of £2,000. Similarly, in a care home, we would be talking about a cost of £6,000 a month, so it would not take very long for some kind of savings to start building up, surely.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

John Mason

Can I press you on what you mean by public sector reform? Do you just mean cutting jobs, or is it something else?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

John Mason

The subject of savings has already been mentioned and I think that there are two short paragraphs about savings in the financial memorandum. I take your point that that is not one of the aims of the bill but, if there are to be savings, presumably they should be in the financial memorandum. I want to explore where there might be savings. One obvious area would be the state pension. If we take the basic state pension figure of around £10,000 a year and we had 400 people ending their lives, that would be a saving of about £4 million for the Department for Work and Pensions.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

John Mason

I take that point from the NHS point of view, but in some cases the family or the person is paying the care home fees. That can be around £6,000 a month, or £72,000 a year. An early death could be to the family’s financial advantage, and, sadly, we have known throughout history that some families want their relatives to end their lives more quickly in order to get their hands on the estate. If a person’s estate is going down by £72,000 a year, that is a big incentive for some families to encourage an early death, is it not?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

John Mason

I accept that there are some safeguards in the bill. The concern is that, in legislation in this country and in other jurisdictions, often the initial jump has certain safeguards, and then things get watered down or widened out over time. I accept that you cannot be responsible for that, but the big jump is allowing this at all, and none of us can anticipate whether it will stick firmly going forward or whether it will gradually change. We have to take some of those things into account at this point, as we look ahead.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

John Mason

I want to pick up on something that Andy Witty said—the issue might also affect others. Obviously, the colleges sector would like more money, and I wonder whether you think that the Scottish budget is spread out in a reasonable way, or whether we should be giving more money to colleges and universities, which would mean less money for other sectors. Over the years, we have been generous to health, which has received a real-terms increase every year, and social security spending is going up quite a lot due to things such as the Scottish child payment, which has been very successful. Have we got the balance wrong between investing directly in the economy, via the universities and colleges, and investing in health and social security?