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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 25 July 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

John Mason

Okay. Let me play devil’s advocate. The argument for a commissioner for disabled people is that, as not all disabled people are children, they still need a commissioner, even though there would be an overlap with the children’s commissioner.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

John Mason

Okay, thanks—that was maybe an unfair question.

I will ask Audrey Nicoll about alternate models. Within your committee’s remit, there are quite a lot of alternate models. You mentioned the inspector of constabulary and the prisons inspector, both of which are funded by the Government, not by Parliament, but yet they are, I think, quite independent. Is that another model that works?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

John Mason

That involved the third sector and the committee working closely together. It is a good example. I do not know how much your committee is involved with the Scottish Human Rights Commission. It has suggested that, if it was given a bit more power to initiate inquiries, it could co-ordinate the whole field of human rights a bit more. A lot of what we are talking about is related to human rights. Is that model worth looking at?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

John Mason

That is helpful—thank you.

One of our predecessor committees—the Finance Committee in 2006, I think—suggested that there should be a limit on how many more commissioners we had. It suggested that we should look at alternate models. In this case did your committee look at alternate models? For example, did you consider whether an existing commissioner could have taken on the role? Some witnesses have said to us that we should expand the role of the Scottish Human Rights Commission, which could have a department or a rapporteur who would, for example, look after patient safety, children’s affairs or older people. Did your committee consider that kind of model?

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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

John Mason

Okay. I remain unconvinced.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

John Mason

Okay. I will leave it at that.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pension Age Disability Payment

Meeting date: 9 May 2024

John Mason

Can I press you on that? We would have to find the money now. Maybe the savings would come along in a few years, but we would have to look at this year’s budget. It has been suggested that £580 million might be on the low side. Do you have any suggestions about where that money should come from? Should we raise taxes or cut the Scottish child payment? What should we do?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pension Age Disability Payment

Meeting date: 9 May 2024

John Mason

Are you not rather ducking out of that?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pension Age Disability Payment

Meeting date: 9 May 2024

John Mason

There has been some debate around this question. To what extent has the Scottish Government provided a reasonable justification for not introducing a mobility component? I especially emphasise that the Government has said that the cost would be quite significant, so maybe you could touch on that. Ms Horne, do you want to start?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pension Age Disability Payment

Meeting date: 9 May 2024

John Mason

I am getting the impression that, in a sense, looking forward is more important than looking back. Was your point that, if something happens to someone suddenly, it is the future that matters more than how long they have had the condition?