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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
  7. Current session: 14 May 2026 to 8 November 2026
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Scotland’s colleges 2026”

Meeting date: 24 September 2026

Neil Bibby

It suggests that the funding system remains fundamentally broken if it is not improving the situation significantly.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“The National Fraud Initiative in Scotland 2026”

Meeting date: 24 September 2026

Neil Bibby

Earlier, we discussed the problems around looking at Scotland-specific policies, such as the Scottish child payment and the adult disability payment, which are not currently covered in the report. Will that pilot look at all benefits that people receive through Social Security Scotland that are subject to the residency checks?

10:15

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“The National Fraud Initiative in Scotland 2026”

Meeting date: 24 September 2026

Neil Bibby

Thank you for your report and your opening statement. We are keen to explore more of the details around the fraud and error that have been identified.

In opening, I will ask about some of the potential gaps. Are you able to estimate in any way the levels of fraud in the public sector in Scotland that have not been identified by the national fraud initiative?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“The National Fraud Initiative in Scotland 2026”

Meeting date: 24 September 2026

Neil Bibby

Are the two organisations covered by the national fraud initiative?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“The National Fraud Initiative in Scotland 2026”

Meeting date: 24 September 2026

Neil Bibby

Young people under the age of 22 receive a free bus pass, so there is nothing to prohibit your looking at that age group.

09:45

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“The National Fraud Initiative in Scotland 2026”

Meeting date: 24 September 2026

Neil Bibby

It came in before that.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“The National Fraud Initiative in Scotland 2026”

Meeting date: 24 September 2026

Neil Bibby

Well, they were very busy. I am glad that that was revealed by the audit—it is working effectively when that happens. As you said, we need to look at areas where we can extend it so that it can pick up more.

I have one more question, which is on the use of blue badges. The report says that 5,000 blue badge passes of people who had deceased were cancelled in 2024-25. In the case of bus passes, you were able to say how many times they had been used, but I imagine that that is difficult with blue badges. Is there any indication of how many times they may have been used?

Also on blue badges, I noticed that, in terms of outcomes, the financial impact had come down marginally. Has that 5,000 figure significantly changed? Is that comparable with previous years?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Scotland’s colleges 2026”

Meeting date: 24 September 2026

Neil Bibby

So colleges are at different stages of the process, but when you look at it over a two-year period, it is broadly in line.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Scotland’s colleges 2026”

Meeting date: 24 September 2026

Neil Bibby

Yes, I am sure that we will take it up with them.

Finally, I will ask about student head count, which you have talked about already. We have talked about a lot of numbers and budgets, but we need to fully recognise the impact that those have on students. The student head count has plummeted by 16 per cent, which is a drop of almost 40,000 students, and the number of course enrolments has dropped by more than 70,000. Both figures are now at their lowest level in a decade. Has that decade of decline been driven primarily by a lack of student demand, or is it a direct result of colleges intentionally shrinking course availability?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Scotland’s colleges 2026”

Meeting date: 24 September 2026

Neil Bibby

That is certainly my experience of dealing with my local college. Student satisfaction is high and colleges are resilient, but they are under significant pressure, which we have seen from the significant reduction in the student head count.

Your report rightly warns not just of the impact on potential students but that, without urgent reform, colleges may fail to deliver for employers. You also talked last week about the importance of having joined-up education and economic policies. How has that decline in student head count impacted Scotland’s key growth sectors, and has Audit Scotland quantified the broader economic cost of that reduction on the regional workforce?