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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
  7. Current session: 14 May 2026 to 8 November 2026
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Post-school education and skills reform”

Meeting date: 29 October 2026

Neil Bibby

We have just covered the importance of communication and engagement with employers. The Auditor General’s report also talks about the need to improve communication and engagement with learners and students. What will be done in that regard?

The role of colleges in delivering positive reforms is clear—Mr Briggs covered that as well. However, colleges are under a huge amount of pressure, so communication and engagement through colleges will be challenging.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Post-school education and skills reform”

Meeting date: 29 October 2026

Neil Bibby

I want to follow up on Mr Brown’s questions about estimated costs. Paragraph 69 of the report says:

“savings are estimated to be realised by 2030 but have not yet been quantified.”

Obviously, you are doing updated work on the costs. Is the work on the savings happening at the same time? Is there an idea of when we might see quantified savings that are expected to be made by 2030?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Post-school education and skills reform”

Meeting date: 29 October 2026

Neil Bibby

Colleges are doing excellent work to upskill people in order to get parents into work. We can recognise that colleges play an important role, but, when we are talking about aligning with wider policy, how do the reforms make a significant and tangible difference in terms of tackling child poverty? It comes back to the point about evaluation and framework, because we need to see some clear milestones, targets and outcomes on that aspect. We can talk about great examples, but we need to be clear about what will be achieved in that regard.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Post-school education and skills reform”

Meeting date: 29 October 2026

Neil Bibby

I think that every member of this committee would agree with the aspiration, but what is key is having a delivery plan to do that and having measurable outcomes to track its progress.

As members have no more questions, I thank all our witnesses for their evidence this morning. I now suspend the meeting to allow for a changeover of witnesses.

10:42

Meeting suspended.

10:48

On resuming—

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Renewable energy: The Scottish Government’s Offshore Wind Investment Programme”

Meeting date: 29 October 2026

Neil Bibby

We move to agenda item 3. I welcome our witnesses: Stephen Boyle, Auditor General for Scotland; Dharshi Santhakumaran, senior manager, Audit Scotland; and Cornilius Chikwama, audit director, Audit Scotland.

I invite the Auditor General to make a short opening statement on his renewable energy report.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Post-school education and skills reform”

Meeting date: 29 October 2026

Neil Bibby

Did you say that you will implement the evaluation and monitoring framework by the spring?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Renewable energy: The Scottish Government’s Offshore Wind Investment Programme”

Meeting date: 29 October 2026

Neil Bibby

So, there is no post-2029 plan or definitive idea from the Government on whether the programme will continue. Is there a plan to determine whether there will be a plan? Has the Government indicated how it will go about looking at that issue? Will it consult with industry partners on continuing the programme?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Renewable energy: The Scottish Government’s Offshore Wind Investment Programme”

Meeting date: 29 October 2026

Neil Bibby

Thank you for that. Members do not seem to have any further questions, so I thank all our witnesses for their evidence and I move the meeting into private session.

11:52

Meeting continued in private until 12:17.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Renewable energy: The Scottish Government’s Offshore Wind Investment Programme”

Meeting date: 29 October 2026

Neil Bibby

Yes. If you exclude the Sumitomo project, there is £705 of private capital for every £1,000 of public money, so there is a significant difference without it, as you point out.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Renewable energy: The Scottish Government’s Offshore Wind Investment Programme”

Meeting date: 29 October 2026

Neil Bibby

You do not make a judgment about the merit of the investment, but the method of investment is under scrutiny. To follow on from Mr Kirkwood’s point about the significant public investment that is going in, I note that the ratio of public to private investment in the Sumitomo project is quite significant. We have seen a trend from loans to grants. Does that mean that repayable loans and equity stakes are becoming increasingly important for the Scottish Government to consider or implement as methods of public investment?