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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 23 October 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Willie Rennie

If you remember by the end of the meeting, will you take the opportunity to correct us? I would be grateful for that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Willie Rennie

While the committee has been meeting this morning, the individual who complained about you at the NERC has communicated back to me. The individual says:

“THANK YOU. I did not move to another research council. I left completely and went to a university, completely broken. I lost a lot, including my final salary pension.”

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Willie Rennie

What about when you were at the University of Leicester?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Willie Rennie

To be honest, yesterday was quite sad, because the people who were before the committee clearly struggled with their jobs. It was notable the number of times that they said, “I wasn’t aware of that information at the time.” No one had an inquiring mind, and Peter Fotheringham in particular clearly struggled in his role, which he admitted yesterday. If you had watched the evidence, you would have seen that. Similarly, the chair did not have a financial background and she was not inquiring.

Were you not aware of the fact that your team was not up to the job? It was your job to ensure that you had a proper team around you. Were you not aware of any of that? You are passing the buck to everybody else. You say that you were not told and you were not aware, and that the fact that you did not have a grip was because other people had not told you what was happening. However, it was your job to know those things.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Willie Rennie

Or whether you were delusional. That is what I asked. Or was it something else? I just do not understand it.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Willie Rennie

You were also president of the Law Society of Scotland. The turnover for each organisation is as follows: £1 million for Samaritans Scotland; £11 million for the Law Society; and £300 million for the University of Dundee. Given that, do you think that you had the experience to take on this particular role?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Willie Rennie

But we cannot go back.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Willie Rennie

Dr McGeorge, did you want to come in?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Willie Rennie

Okay.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Willie Rennie

Dr McGeorge and Mr Fotheringham, my question is on the banking covenant and the arrangements around that. The Gillies report sets out that the Funding Council was not informed of the potential breach of the banking covenant as at 31 July 2023; the university finance and policy committee was not told of the actual breach on 10 October 2024; the audit and risk committee was not told on 22 October; and the Funding Council was not informed on 13 November. Is that your understanding of the banking covenant events?