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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 July 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Miles Briggs

In that whole period, from July 2023 to then, you were not involved and there was never a mention of anything.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Miles Briggs

That is pretty amazing.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Miles Briggs

At what point were you aware of needing to provide that information? Was it only at the very end, with the letter that I have here from your chief operating officer, which says:

“The Principal has asked that I drop you a line”?

Was that the point at which you were aware of all those duties?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Miles Briggs

From reading Professor Gillies’s report, I note that she and the investigation team found it really difficult to get the paper trail. The report states:

“The Principal either was made aware or should have been made aware of the potential breach and a judgement made of whether to report this to the SFC.”

It feels as though a lot of that information was not being written down and could not be accessed. You said that you prefer to have conversations. Is it fair to say that conversations were being had with other professionals whom you expected to take forward the work? Have you ever asked the chief operating officer or anyone else in the institution to limit the information that was being sent to the Scottish Funding Council?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Miles Briggs

In relation to the questions that my colleague Michael Marra put to you about the money running out at some point, at no point did you ask, “Where are we with the creditors?” You were not aware of the concerns that they clearly had.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Miles Briggs

Thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Miles Briggs

I am referring to an article from 23 June. If I was in your shoes, I would have prepared and expected all those questions.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Miles Briggs

I can understand that, to be quite frank.

The Gillies report talks specifically about extravagant spending. Do you recognise that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Miles Briggs

What about your expenses? I have looked through those listed in the auditor’s report. The expenses are all for first-class-only travel and top hotels. The auditor took significant umbrage at the fact that they did not meet any of the university’s outlined policies. You did not care about any of that; it just had to be the best for you, wherever you were going.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Miles Briggs

I have two more questions. The first returns to what other members have asked you. You have said that you are taking responsibility and have given a heartfelt apology. Would it not be an act of recognition of the role that you played in creating the situation that the University of Dundee now finds itself in if you paid back that £150,000? I do not know how many staff members’ jobs would be saved by your doing so, but do you recognise that it could be really important for you to send a message to the students and staff who are left at the University of Dundee that you understand your role in the saga?