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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 November 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Edward Mountain

I could get too involved in this, so I will move to Kevin Stewart for the next question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Edward Mountain

This is where I get confused by the headline figures: as you rightly say, 6 per cent might mean something completely different to somebody who lives in Edinburgh who does not need to take public transport compared with someone who lives in the Highlands. Somebody in Edinburgh may have one car whereas, in the Highlands, most families may have to rely on two cars because they have to get around the place. We are talking about a huge reduction in car use and there is no sight line in the future to having more bus or train transport. In fact, bus services and train transport are reducing. What will the effect be on people who live in rural areas? How many miles or kilometres do you think that they will have to shift: 100km a year? Would it be reasonable for the burden to fall on everyone in Edinburgh and Glasgow, as they have access to public transport?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Edward Mountain

We are talking about thousands, however, are we not?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Edward Mountain

I will come back to you later, Monica, for a further question.

In this evidence session, I have been trying to get an idea of the costs for individual households. The estimate—if I have got it right—is that this will cost the Scottish Government 0.4 per cent of GDP per annum for the next 25 years. Is that right? I suppose that it will be front loaded at the beginning.

In your submission, you suggest that that would amount to about £750 million a year. On top of that, there will be additional costs for every household if we are going to reach the target for installing heat pumps, and households might have to use their cars less or even replace them. Is it unreasonable to say that, based on the figures that you have produced and some of the figures that we have heard today, the average cost per annum per household in Scotland to reach the target of net zero by 2045 might be £1,000 per household per year, every year, for the next 25 years?

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Edward Mountain

The final question comes from Monica—over to you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Edward Mountain

People out there are facing a cost of living crisis, the prices of food and suchlike are rising exponentially and we are asking people to make fundamental changes to their lives, such as moving from using fossil fuels and oil boilers to air-source heat pumps and so on. There is a cost to all that, in the same way as there is if we follow the recommendation that we eat less meat, because that means that we can reduce the size of the herd, which means that the price of meat increases. To make people buy into that, which is what you and the Governments are encouraging people to do, surely they will have to know what they have to invest financially. Just saying that it is better for the world is too abstract if they do not know how many pounds they are going to have to take out of their pockets to pay for it.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Edward Mountain

What does the percentage figure for GDP between two periods actually mean for a person in a house in Scotland? How much will it cost them to achieve the targets that you suggest that the Government should achieve?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Edward Mountain

Basically, the approach is all about horse trading among the various areas where carbon is emitted, to come up with an overall carbon budget. Does it give anyone in Scotland an idea of what the costs will be to the average household or the average individual, or does it just set out a figure for carbon with no costs set out for individuals and what they are going to have to buy into?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Edward Mountain

So, you are confident that your interaction with the Scottish Government has not caused any delay in the production of the draft carbon budgets.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Edward Mountain

James, I sort of heard that answer. I am struggling with your sound today.