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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 30 June 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

That brings us nicely to a point that John Mason wants to make, so I will hand over to him before I continue with my questions.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

Is the figure for academic support £2.3 million, roughly?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

Do you accept that academic support is also provided by the colleges so there is duplication? What you provide, through the executive office and the top slice that you take from the colleges, is also provided by the colleges locally.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

Finally, we have heard from other witnesses today about the challenges around capital. People who come from Moray, as I do, are particularly worried about Moray college, which is in older buildings in which there has been limited investment—indeed, some of the classrooms have had to be closed and people have moved offices and suchlike. There is a worry that a general lack of investment will make it easier in the future for UHI to say, “Despite our best efforts, Moray college can’t continue, because it would cost too much to upgrade the current building or to build a new one. Therefore, students can go elsewhere—it’s only 40 miles to Inverness.”

What would you say to dampen those concerns or to remove them completely? Moray needs the students to go there. The students who study at Moray college achieve very good outcomes. The principal, David Patterson, is doing a great job under very trying circumstances—we have heard that all principals are working under trying circumstances at the moment—in leading the college’s outstanding staff. Can you give a guarantee that there will always be a UHI Moray in Moray?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

What about your responsibility?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

However, you did not intervene until the college reached a critical point. It was in a very difficult financial situation—it was reporting millions of pounds of losses—and the principal was on the cusp of resigning.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

Another complex problem is the regional strategic body. Before that, we had the further education regional board.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

An SFC review of the UHI regional strategic body that was carried out in 2020 outlined a number of differences between the two. Is it correct that the further education regional board had an independent chair?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

Can you understand that there is concern that some of those voices have been lost, given that all nine chairs used to be on the predecessor board and, now, two chairs attend, with a third possibly being invited? Now that the chair of the court chairs the RSB, there is not the same independence as there was when there was an independent chair. That means that, if the leadership of the UHI wants to get something through, it can now do that. With the regional strategic body rubber stamping proposals, there is less opportunity for dialogue and debate and, perhaps, for colleges to propose changes.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

That is very interesting. I welcome that. Can I take it that that was an admission that you are not inclusive enough at the moment? If the court must change to be more inclusive, as you just said, does that not suggest that you are not inclusive enough at the moment?