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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 9 November 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Douglas Ross

I am not asking you to go into the specifics. Do you agree with Social Work Scotland that the bill could have been vastly improved had the consultation been better?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Douglas Ross

I know. You said, “Yes,” and then, when Pam Duncan-Glancy asked how that could happen, you started to give an answer. When you asked for the question to be repeated, you then said that Pam Duncan-Glancy was correct and that it was not possible. I am just wondering why the senior lawyer on the panel did not pick up on that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Douglas Ross

You do not need to press your button.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Douglas Ross

Which was completely different to what the minister had just said, but she corrected herself. I am just wondering why no one else on the panel sought to correct that because, had Pam Duncan-Glancy not challenged it, that would have been the information that we had on the record. However, we can go away and look at it again if we want.

On this point, minister, I am sorry, but I am going back to where I started this morning. This has been a major issue, both with the written submissions and oral evidence. I understand that I am not allowed to repeat what was said to us in our private session, but we had your officials on their own with us, and this issue was raised with them right at the very beginning. How is it that we are at the point of coming to write a report on this bill, but you are still seeking advice on it?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Douglas Ross

Paul McLennan wants to come in on that point.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Douglas Ross

Well, there is a very simple amendment—

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Douglas Ross

Is that you, Mr Adam?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Douglas Ross

This issue came up in our evidence sessions and it is not unique to this bill. For example, the exact same issues were raised by stakeholders with the Housing (Scotland) Bill, and amendments were drafted at stage 2. There seems to be an issue in the Government about this problem. When you heard in the evidence that there was an almost identical problem in the Housing (Scotland) Bill, did you not go to the Cabinet Secretary for Housing, or did your officials not go to officials in other departments, and say, “How do we resolve this?” Did you ask the Cabinet Secretary for Housing about it?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Douglas Ross

But you are not suggesting changes at the moment.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Douglas Ross

When will we get an update on that? It clearly cannot be part of our stage 1 report, so will it be before the stage 1 debate and vote? Will it be before stage 2?