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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 9 May 2025
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Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 30 November 2023

Graham Simpson

Obviously, it is common sense that those meetings should be taking place, and it is a real concern that they are not.

To clear up, in my head, the discussion about the maintenance backlog, I have a question for Derek Smeall. Is it the case that, as of now, we do not know what the maintenance backlog is?

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 30 November 2023

Graham Simpson

Why are individual colleges, such as yours, not keeping a record of your backlog?

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 30 November 2023

Graham Simpson

Have you asked the SFC to meet?

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 30 November 2023

Graham Simpson

For two and a half years, you have not met the Scottish Funding Council.

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 30 November 2023

Graham Simpson

The register exists. I have not seen it, but we know that it exists. I am thinking about your discussions with your fellow principals, who you represent. When you are in meetings in colleges that are at risk of, let us say, running out of money, do any of those principals put up their hands and say, “Derek, we’re really in trouble here?”

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 30 November 2023

Graham Simpson

I think that John Mooney wants to come in.

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 30 November 2023

Graham Simpson

I know that Stuart Brown wants to come in, but first I want to explore an issue on which he might have something to say. How many job losses are we looking at in the sector? We have heard about a couple of colleges that are cutting staff, but do you see that happening across the board?

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 30 November 2023

Graham Simpson

My question is about the use of arm’s-length foundations. Derek Smeall, you rightly said that colleges are not allowed to keep surpluses. Prior to 2014, they could do so, but then colleges were reclassified as public sector bodies and were therefore not allowed to keep surpluses. As a result, I think that every college set up an arm’s-length foundation. Have those foundations been used to any great extent? What is the current position?

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 30 November 2023

Graham Simpson

I know. There is a lot of interest in this area.

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 30 November 2023

Graham Simpson

Have you asked to meet?