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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 31 July 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

My questions cover costs and resources, but I think that you have covered most of that theme as we have gone through. We have talked about the Law Society in relation to the McCulloch case. In addition, the Law Society highlighted the potential risk of “significant litigation” arising from the bill. Might you take the opportunity to comment on that?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

The Law Society’s specific concern—which it suggested was about an “unintended consequence”—was that, if someone did not get the treatment and something then happened, their surviving relatives or partner could sue. Your financial memorandum does not include that litigation cost, but it is obvious that it could be significant.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

So, you have not included any cost for that.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

I am sorry, but I want to clarify that further. Someone for whom that is an agreed pathway should not expect to immediately—in three weeks’ time—be in a rehab facility, because all that other process would need to happen.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

Carolyn Currie mentioned that it is a challenge for female-led businesses to access apprenticeships. Vikki Manson talked about the same challenge for small businesses. We hear that SDS is brilliant at speaking to businesses, but it is clear that it is not speaking to female-led businesses or small businesses.

What is going on? What is your message for SDS? Whatever happens with the bill, the big industries that Paul Campbell and SAAB represent—such as Scottish Water, which is a huge employer and is very different from the businesses that Carolyn Currie and Vikki Manson talked about—will deal with it. Do you have a message for whoever takes over about engaging with small businesses and women’s businesses?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

I have some questions about private providers. We had some private providers giving evidence last week, and they are clearly not all the same.

The bill contains proposals for a process to approve private providers of further and higher education for the purposes of student support. Clearly, there is the potential for private provision to increase. In response to our call for views, we had some suggestions that there may be a lack of clarity in the checks and balances on those private providers that would be required in terms of student support. It would be good to hear your thoughts on that and anything in the bill you think should be changed to make it stronger.

Sarah, you have mentioned the issue a couple of times. You were polite in calling them independent.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

Good morning. Cabinet secretary, you touched on the bill’s requirement for a medical diagnosis. We have heard in previous evidence sessions some concern about that formalisation. The Government’s written evidence addresses the issue, but can you say a bit more about the Government’s concerns in that regard and address the concern that one of the unintended consequences of that requirement could be a challenge to existing services that do not require a formal diagnosis?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

You will have noticed that, last week, we spent a bit of time talking about the transfer of staff from SDS to the SFC. It would be good to hear your thoughts on that and on what we need to do to make sure that that transition is smooth. Jon Vincent mentioned that one of the strengths of SDS is its engagement with employers. Does it give you any confidence that the folk who are doing that engagement on the ground are transferring from SDS to the SFC?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

I want to talk about student support, because it has been suggested in some of the responses to our call for views that there is no clarity about what is expected of private independent providers with regard to support for students. Sarah Dalrymple talked about the mental health support that her organisation provides, which sounds really good. Does that kind of thing happen everywhere, or should the bill be clearer about what support students should be receiving?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

Yes, I think so.

Phiona, what are your thoughts on this? Would it be helpful to students if this aspect were made clear in the legislation going through Parliament so that things were fair across the board? We know that all three of your organisations are superstars in what you are doing, but do we need to ensure that all the organisations that provide apprenticeships are superstars?