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Social Justice and Social Security Committee
Meeting date: 18 September 2025
Bob Doris
Welcome back. We now move to agenda item 6, which is a pre-budget scrutiny evidence session.
I welcome to the meeting Leah Duncan-Karrim, who is the policy and influencing lead at One Parent Families Scotland, and Adam Stachura, who is the associate director of policy, communications and external affairs at Age Scotland.
We hope to be joined online by Fiona Collie, who is the head of public affairs and communications at Carers Scotland, and Allan Faulds, who is the senior policy officer at the Health and Social Care Alliance Scotland—known as the ALLIANCE. There are some technical difficulties, but we hope that they will join us during the course of this morning’s meeting.
Jeremy Balfour will ask the first questions.
Social Justice and Social Security Committee
Meeting date: 18 September 2025
Bob Doris
I will bring in Allan Faulds, as he has not had the opportunity to put anything on the record.
Social Justice and Social Security Committee
Meeting date: 18 September 2025
Bob Doris
I will bring in Fiona Collie, who has just managed to get online. I am not sure whether you heard the question. In essence, as we try to meet the shortfall in the block grant in Scotland’s social security investment, that could impact other services elsewhere and it could lead to cuts. It could also have a detrimental impact on the groups of people that we are trying to help with additional cash payments. Do you have any reflections on that, Fiona?
Social Justice and Social Security Committee
Meeting date: 18 September 2025
Bob Doris
Leah Duncan-Karrim mentioned that in an earlier answer. Do you want to expand on that, Leah?
Social Justice and Social Security Committee
Meeting date: 18 September 2025
Bob Doris
As no other witnesses want to come in, Carol do you want to add anything before we move on?
Social Justice and Social Security Committee
Meeting date: 18 September 2025
Bob Doris
Of course. Take your time, cabinet secretary.
Social Justice and Social Security Committee
Meeting date: 18 September 2025
Bob Doris
Jeremy Balfour joins us online.
Social Justice and Social Security Committee
Meeting date: 18 September 2025
Bob Doris
Item 4 is consideration of another SSI. The instrument is subject to the affirmative procedure, which means that the Parliament must approve it before it comes into force.
I welcome back to the meeting the Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice and welcome the following Scottish Government officials: Thomas Nicol, who is a lawyer; and Simon Coote, who is head of the cross-cutting policy unit. Thank you for joining us.
Following this evidence session, the committee will be invited under an upcoming agenda item to consider a motion to approve the instrument. I remind everyone that the Scottish Government officials can speak under this item, but not in the debate that will follow.
I invite the cabinet secretary to make a short opening statement.
Social Justice and Social Security Committee
Meeting date: 18 September 2025
Bob Doris
As there are no other questions, we move to item 5, which is formal consideration of motion S6M-18126, on approval of the regulations. I invite the cabinet secretary to speak to the motion, if she wishes, and to move it.
Motion moved,
That the Social Justice and Social Security Committee recommends that the Social Security (Cross-border Provision, Case Transfer and Miscellaneous Amendments) (Scotland) Regulations 2025 [draft] be approved.—[Shirley-Anne Somerville]
Motion agreed to.
Social Justice and Social Security Committee
Meeting date: 18 September 2025
Bob Doris
Who is that question for, Jeremy?