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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 27 October 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Scottish Water Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Bob Doris

I thank Monica Lennon for exploring a lot of these issues. I found that incredibly helpful, and it is important to examine the bonus structures. For a bit of context, I note that Welsh Water was paying its chief executive a pay and bonuses package of £892,000 in 2021; in 2023 it was £792,000. It still does not sit comfortably with me that we are talking about having to be competitive to pay the best. It is reported that, in England and Wales, water companies got £9.1 million in 2023—not in salaries; that is bonus-specific.

My question is for Deirdre Michie. I am not at all comfortable with that level of bonus, but is it symptomatic of a market that is broken across the UK, in which Scottish Water feels that it has to be competitive? Is it a race to the top, if you like, whereby others are paying eye-watering amounts of money and Scottish Water is following suit? Would you like there to be reform across the UK, simply so that, in the market more generally, it is not possible for companies to pay such huge bonuses?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Scottish Water Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Bob Doris

Peter Farrer could be going into pay discussions saying, “We will give you more for better performance”. That is potentially a—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Petition

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Bob Doris

Before we come to an informed view on this, would the deputy convener’s suggestion preclude an oral evidence session at a later date, depending on the Scottish Government’s reply?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Scottish Water Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Bob Doris

I thank Monica Lennon for exploring a lot of these issues. I found that incredibly helpful, and it is important to examine the bonus structures. For a bit of context, I note that Welsh Water was paying its chief executive a pay and bonuses package of £892,000 in 2021; in 2023 it was £792,000. It still does not sit comfortably with me that we are talking about having to be competitive to pay the best. It is reported that, in England and Wales, water companies got £9.1 million in 2023—not in salaries; that is bonus-specific.

My question is for Deirdre Michie. I am not at all comfortable with that level of bonus, but is it symptomatic of a market that is broken across the UK, in which Scottish Water feels that it has to be competitive? Is it a race to the top, if you like, whereby others are paying eye-watering amounts of money and Scottish Water is following suit? Would you like there to be reform across the UK, simply so that, in the market more generally, it is not possible for companies to pay such huge bonuses?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Scottish Water Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Bob Doris

Only for clarity, rather than as a follow-up question, is that subject to the on-going pay discussions?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Scottish Water Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Bob Doris

I appreciate your answer, Deirdre, but I was not giving you a bit of wriggle room over why you have paid those bonuses. My question was more about whether you believe that reform in relation to the water market elsewhere in the UK—including reform of the eye-watering level of bonuses—would give Scottish Water better value when it comes to the recruitment and retention of the best senior executives. I think that the unions that are watching will still feel deeply uncomfortable with such levels of pay and bonuses for senior executives. Would UK-wide reform to cap a lot of that be beneficial?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Scottish Water Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Bob Doris

I appreciate that Scottish Water is trying to strike a balance in responding to what I see as a flawed marketplace. Ofwat has recently been given additional powers, but we will see whether that does what it says on the tin. Perhaps I have a few doubts about that.

I have one final question, convener. Workers and union members will follow this exchange primarily through Monica Lennon’s line of questioning. What are the bonuses for ordinary workers on the ground in Scottish Water, who do an exemplary job, separate from whatever the pay increase award is? Do ordinary workers get a suite of packages, measures and bonuses?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 27 March 2025

Bob Doris

I am listening carefully to you, Mr Balfour, and I am not sure what I feel about your amendment, but my question is about something that is not in it. A lot of survivors of domestic abuse are under threat of losing homes in the private rented sector. There are some landlords who are not working at scale and have just one or two registered properties, but there are many large, almost industrial, landlords and letting agencies out there. Do you feel that this should also be a requirement on private landlords and letting agencies?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Environmental Standards Scotland (Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24 and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Bob Doris

I am sorry—I thought that you said the opposite. So, we would be nudging £1 million.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Environmental Standards Scotland (Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24 and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Bob Doris

That was helpful. Thank you.