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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 July 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 28 September 2023

Bob Doris

Mr Bradley, I know that time is moving on, but I think the committee would appreciate it if you drew a distinction between money that has been allocated but not provided to organisations and money that is unallocated, because those are different things. Could you address that? I will then bring in Alison Davis before my colleagues get a chance to ask their questions.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 21 September 2023

Bob Doris

That is a helpful comment, Maggie, because my final question was going to be about whether we should expect additional applications as a result of the change to the Scottish carer support payment. It is forecast that, in 2025-26, we will be paying out £32 million more than we would have been had we stayed with the carers allowance at UK level. That means more money going into the pockets of carers, which is a good thing, but only £7 million of that relates to the increased eligibility criteria, which include, for example, advanced full-time education applicants. The rest of the cost is assumed to be the cumulative impact of more people applying for the new payment. That goes back to Maggie Chiwanza’s point about clarity and accessibility.

Does any of the witnesses want to say a little more about whether the new payment will mean that people who currently qualify for carers allowance and carers allowance supplement but do not apply for it will be emboldened to do so? Is this an opportunity? Fiona Collie is in the room and she is nodding her head.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 21 September 2023

Bob Doris

I will endeavour to be as concise as possible.

I want to look at the Scottish Government’s policies and budgets, and the impact that they have had on reducing or—dare I say it?—stopping an increase in child poverty. I want to disaggregate those things into policies that are working and the budgets that are around those policies. They interact with each other, but they are not the same thing. Maybe a couple of the witnesses could put something on the record about the impact that the policies and budgets that the Scottish Government is directing towards tackling child poverty are having.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 21 September 2023

Bob Doris

Perhaps not. I will ask it now. After I have asked it, I will bring in Fiona, and maybe Paul Traynor could come in after that—I see him nodding his head—for the best use of time.

At the launch, carers will be signposted to other support—some of the signposting will be there—but the provision of wider support is meant to develop over time. I think that we were starting to move into that kind of area. What are your priorities for what the wider support should look like to make it meaningful for carers?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 21 September 2023

Bob Doris

Thank you, Mr Traynor. I have a final—

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 21 September 2023

Bob Doris

Good morning, everyone. The business and regulatory impact assessment associated with the legislation states that there should be

“an improved service from launch”

of carer support payment. We have heard that incremental improvements and changes will be made further down the line. Everyone understands that but, at the start, from day 1, what should that improved service look like?

Fiona Collie was trying to come in towards the end of the previous question, so I will go to her first.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 21 September 2023

Bob Doris

You might have strayed into what my next question was going to be about.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 21 September 2023

Bob Doris

Okay. Thank you. Mr Scott is making eye contact with me. I think that he wants to come in.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 21 September 2023

Bob Doris

That is a fair point. For clarity, this is about initial signposting. The wider support should follow on from that—in short order, I hope.

Paul, do you want to add anything?

09:45  

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 21 September 2023

Bob Doris

My apologies, Maggie; I was not aware of that.