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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 17 December 2025
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Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2024”

Meeting date: 28 November 2024

Colin Beattie

What about the post-school landscape?

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2024”

Meeting date: 28 November 2024

Colin Beattie

First, I would like to have a look at the pace of reform, which is not particularly good. What are the reasons for the slow pace of change in reforming the post-school landscape and regional arrangements?

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2024”

Meeting date: 28 November 2024

Colin Beattie

As I said, it seems to have been going on for many years now. I remember similar discussions going on around this table back in 2015-16, in the immediate aftermath of the initial bringing together of some of the colleges. Yet, here we are, starting the process again, it seems.

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2024”

Meeting date: 28 November 2024

Colin Beattie

The assumption is that there is legislation to be passed.

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2024”

Meeting date: 28 November 2024

Colin Beattie

To come back to the regional aspect, Lanarkshire, Glasgow and the Highlands and Islands—which, in my memory, have always had certain problem-child aspects to them—have been highlighted in particular. This is maybe a more question for the SFC, but how closely is the success or failure of those regional bodies being monitored?

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2024”

Meeting date: 28 November 2024

Colin Beattie

I will watch this initiative with interest.

I will touch on one other thing, which is probably for the SFC again. We do not hear much about them nowadays, but, back in 2014, arm’s-length foundations held funds of £90-odd million, and I think that the figure is projected to be about £9 million this year. To what extent do you monitor them and the money that goes in and out?

I realise that they are separate entities but, nevertheless, they are there for a single purpose, which is to support the colleges. Initially, the large amount of money that held by them was intended for capital projects that had not yet been drawn down. There is still £9 million in them, which is not an insignificant sum, and not all the colleges have the benefit of it. How do you monitor the good use of that money—how the money is coming into the college and being utilised?

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2024”

Meeting date: 28 November 2024

Colin Beattie

I remember that, back in 2014, shortly after the regions were put together—tacked together, in some cases—there was an immediate undertaking to reform those arrangements. That was probably in 2015-16. To my mind, this has been dragging on since then.

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2024”

Meeting date: 28 November 2024

Colin Beattie

As you say, a number of groups seem to have been established to carry out work. What is expected to be achieved in the short and long term with those groups? It is a wee bit unclear.

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2024”

Meeting date: 28 November 2024

Colin Beattie

There are some fairly important points to consider in all this. I am keen to understand whether we have progressed with establishing the roles and responsibilities of the different groups and with the timescales for them to report back, and with enabling the reform to take place, particularly the simplification of the funding body landscape and approaches to skills planning.

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2024”

Meeting date: 28 November 2024

Colin Beattie

Is the short term a year and a half?