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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2024
Colin Beattie
On a practical basis, if prisoners are in their cells for 23 hours a day, does that mean that their food is served there, too? Do they not get out to mix with other prisoners?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2024
Colin Beattie
I had assumed that the one hour was for exercise or whatever.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2024
Colin Beattie
I am trying to keep this simple. Board members have champion roles in their areas of expertise. They are also responsible for giving direction to senior officers and for challenging whatever it is that they challenge. Is that multiplicity of roles not kind of confusing?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2024
Colin Beattie
As soon as you see the complexity of governance, you get a bit worried, because the committee has come up against a history of poor governance again and again. Obviously, we do not want it to happen in relation to NSET.
The Scottish Government has not established a shared budget for NSET. Do you know why? Will you expand on some of the risks in that?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2024
Colin Beattie
I would like to explore double-cell occupancy and its consequences.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2024
Colin Beattie
In March 2023, 31.5 per cent of prisoners occupied double cells across the prison estate. In the Public Audit and Post-legislative Scrutiny Committee’s 2020 report, in session 5, entitled “The 2018/19 audit of the Scottish Prison Service”, that committee described the solution of addressing capacity issues by doubling up prisoners as
“a step backwards rather than forwards.”
In response to that report by our predecessor committee, the Scottish Government said that the doubling-up of prisoners in cells was not its “preferred approach”. It further stated that the SPS was
“actively working to provide single cell accommodation”
to all prisoners.
Do you know whether there has been a significant increase in the use of double cells? Has the SPS improved the situation?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2024
Colin Beattie
The previous reports that we have looked at have said that 31.5 per cent of prisoners were in double cells. Is the figure still about the same?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2024
Colin Beattie
It is simply the sheer volume of prisoners that is driving that.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2024
Colin Beattie
Is there an alternative?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2024
Colin Beattie
Particular reference has been made in the past to Barlinnie, as well as to the wider prison estate, of course. However, the difficulty there is that, in the words of the chief inspector of prisons, a restricted regime is in place to keep prisoners “safe and controlled”. Just a few minutes ago, you talked about prisoners being in their cells for 23 hours a day. How is that possible? In prisons in rather more brutal regimes, prisoners are in their cells for 23 hours a day, but we are doing the same here.