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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
  7. Current session: 14 May 2026 to 11 November 2026
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Climate Action Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 1 October 2026

Claire Baker

So, that is not happening at the moment: the information that Mr Barlow and others are collecting is not being fed into the national system.

Climate Action Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 1 October 2026

Claire Baker

The cabinet secretary will be in committee next week, so I might pick that issue up with her.

I asked about this last week, but I would like to understand how the pilot works. Do we understand what the impact has been? It is quite complicated—or maybe I am just making it complicated—so I will try to explain what I mean.

The policy starts on the taxonomy side and then moves backward into net zero, but there seems to be no link to what the policy is meant to achieve. I will try to explain this better—I always end up with so many notes. The policy is focused on outcomes rather than inputs; in other words, it goes back to the net zero assessments to assess its effectiveness, but it already started in the policy area. Am I making any sense? Once you have made the assessment and got the outcome, it is not clear if that was the outcome that was meant to be achieved, because the assessment should have been done earlier.

Climate Action Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 1 October 2026

Claire Baker

I have managed to find the correct notes. The previous committee asked the Government what would be shared from the net zero assessments. They will not be shared directly in the budget documents. It is only when they come to a positive or negative evaluation on spend that the information is shared, so my question is: whether it is positive or negative, was that the intention? If you are not going to share the earlier part of the story, you get only the positive or negative evaluation.

Climate Action Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 1 October 2026

Claire Baker

Does Mr Lockhart have anything to add to that?

Climate Action Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 1 October 2026

Claire Baker

Is that happening at the moment?

Climate Action Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 1 October 2026

Claire Baker

At the moment, the Government says that its evaluation will not be in the public domain at that stage and that there will not be a public element until the process reaches the taxonomy stage. However, based on what we have heard from you and from last week’s panel, it would be helpful to have more information at the net zero assessment stage and for there to be more transparency around why decisions are made at that point.

Climate Action Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 1 October 2026

Claire Baker

It was very focused on policies that were going to reduce emissions, so most of the outcomes for the ones that were selected for the pilot were positive. Was that too narrow a selection?

Climate Action Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 1 October 2026

Claire Baker

I have a question of clarification for Mr Barlow. Did the Scottish Government commission the review, and does it have to provide an official response to it? I do understand that it is an independent review.

Climate Action Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 24 September 2026

Claire Baker

Do you have anything to add, Professor Roy? These are questions for clarification.

Climate Action Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 24 September 2026

Claire Baker

My other question is about the operation of the pilot, which, it appears, focused on areas where you would have expected to see reduced emissions such as heat in buildings or carbon capture policies. Was that the right approach to take in the pilot? From the examples in our papers, everything seems to have come out as positive, and it is hard to accept that every Scottish Government policy would fall into that category. Should the pilot have analysed a broader range of policies, or do you think that the issue will be resolved as we move forward and that things will broaden out at that stage?