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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 26 August 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill:Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Mark Ruskell

Let us go back to the wider purpose of the bill and the nature emergency. Do national parks have the appropriate powers and the appropriate support from the Scottish Government to enable you to deliver on those objectives?

I will give a brief example. At the weekend, I was walking in Tyndrum, up at Coille Coire Chuilc, which is an amazing fragment of Caledonian Scots pinewood with lots of veteran trees, but the forest is dying. Sheep wander around and there are too many deer. I find it incredible that that is happening in a national park.

What powers do you have to turn that around? It would be an option in the bill to give national parks proactive management powers to require landowners to do things. I am not seeing that coming through. This is your opportunity to reflect on that and say whether you think that everything is fine, that you or others have appropriate powers and can take enforcement action and that we will move towards restoring nature in the parks. It is also your opportunity to say whether you think that more funding or extra powers are needed or whether there is something else that the Scottish Government can do to ensure that the vision for nature in the parks is being delivered. From what I see on the ground, that is not being delivered in enough areas.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill:Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Mark Ruskell

What fixed-penalty notice powers would you ideally have? Would you like, for example, car parking enforcement?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill:Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Mark Ruskell

I have a question about the target areas that are not included in the bill. The advisory group originally recommended targets on positive outcomes for biodiversity from public sector and Government policy—for example, on investment in nature. Do you have a view on those areas? Do you already set targets in those areas?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill:Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Mark Ruskell

Does Mark Lodge have anything to add?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill:Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Mark Ruskell

The bill will change the duty on relevant public bodies. Currently, they have to “have regard to” national park plans, which will shift towards a duty to “facilitate the implementation of” the plans. I am interested in the perspectives of all three of you about what might change as a result of that.

Grant, I am aware of the long and difficult history with Highlands and Islands Enterprise in relation to the management of Cairngorm mountain. I am aware that there might be tensions in relation to Forestry and Land Scotland and that there are definitely tensions in the Loch Lomond and the Trossachs National Park and perhaps further afield. What will change as a result of the wording changing from “have regard to” to “facilitate the implementation of”?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill:Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Mark Ruskell

How will that change the dynamic in relation to HIE specifically? In your example, you are talking about areas in which there is already a degree of consensus—changes that need to happen with deer management—so you are pushing public agencies to deliver similar objectives. I am interested in the areas in which there might be tension between a commercial interest and the aims of the park. Will the change in the law change that dynamic?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill:Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Mark Ruskell

Mark, what does this look like from a local authority perspective?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill:Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Mark Ruskell

Okay. Grant Moir, do you have any desire for extra powers?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill:Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Mark Ruskell

Do you already report to your board on areas such as the understanding of citizens and society? Are they already key performance areas in the park?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill:Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Mark Ruskell

Will the provision implicitly change the status of the park plan? For the Loch Lomond and the Trossachs National Park, for example, what would come first: the park plan or Forestry and Land Scotland’s plan for its own estate within the park? Which will have primacy?