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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
  7. Current session: 14 May 2026 to 20 September 2026
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Public Service Reform Committee [Draft]

Delivering Public Service Reform

Meeting date: 10 September 2026

Max Bannerman

Is that conversation about structure and geographical boundaries? Is that as far as it goes, or is finance also being spoken about?

Public Service Reform Committee [Draft]

Delivering Public Service Reform

Meeting date: 10 September 2026

Max Bannerman

In line with what the convener said earlier, I am very interested in seeing the modelling, assumptions and projections for that. If you would share that with the committee at some point, that would be appreciated.

Public Service Reform Committee [Draft]

Delivering Public Service Reform

Meeting date: 10 September 2026

Max Bannerman

I was encouraged by your response to Alex Kerr, when you mentioned that you want to end the “I’m all right, Jack,” mentality on budget accountability, with budget lines and responsibility for individual pots of money in isolation, rather than a joined-up approach. Yesterday in the chamber, I asked you specifically about cutting through silos. You agreed that that is a key part of your programme. I appreciate that the Deputy First Minister has primary responsibility for local government finance, but would you not say that it has to be part of your role as well?

Yesterday in the chamber, I gave you the example of a council that is blaming the Scottish Government for underfunding it. In its words, the Government has said that the responsibility for a bridge infrastructure project is with the local council, because that is its statutory responsibility. A silo has developed and local people will suffer as a result. Looking at that kind of thing, is reform or reorganisation of council tax on the table as part of local government reform?

Public Service Reform Committee [Draft]

Delivering Public Service Reform

Meeting date: 10 September 2026

Max Bannerman

I have a follow-up question on artificial intelligence, but we can come back to that issue.

Public Service Reform Committee [Draft]

Delivering Public Service Reform

Meeting date: 10 September 2026

Max Bannerman

I have a question on AI and your comment to Joe Fagan about a 4 per cent reduction target for non-front-line staff. We know that AI is not a golden goose; I do not think that anybody would pretend that it is. However, how much have you factored that target into your work?

Public Service Reform Committee [Draft]

Delivering Public Service Reform

Meeting date: 10 September 2026

Max Bannerman

I read that report, and it said that AI is an opportunity but that there is a resource constraint in funding right now. Do you have a plan to address that?

Public Service Reform Committee [Draft]

Delivering Public Service Reform

Meeting date: 10 September 2026

Max Bannerman

As part of all that, local councils have their statutory responsibilities and the Government has its responsibilities, and funding is separate, but those responsibilities exist and often seem to be in isolation at the moment. As part of the review that you are engaging on with local authorities, is there scope to look hard at those statutory responsibilities and consider whether the money should therefore be looked at again?

I appreciate your point on the council tax revenue-neutral issue, but councils currently have statutory responsibilities that, because they are statutory, they feel that they have to fulfil, but they cannot go beyond that. How will addressing that fit with the organisational work that you are doing?

Public Service Reform Committee [Draft]

Delivering Public Service Reform

Meeting date: 10 September 2026

Max Bannerman

I want to discuss local government reform with you. The Government has said that it is going to engage in a consultation period with local government and that that process is ongoing. The First Minister said that he did not want to be prescriptive about that, and that he wanted to consult on it. Can you give us an outline of the methodology for the consultation process, and tell us what the Government’s starting point is for that?

10:30

Public Service Reform Committee [Draft]

Delivering Public Service Reform

Meeting date: 3 September 2026

Max Bannerman

Thank you. Good morning.

I want to pick up on the theme of transparency, which Mr Boyle raised. Transparency is very important for the broader programme of public service reform, but it is also important in enabling the committee to examine how that programme is implemented and to look at the Government’s work in that area.

On that theme, would you agree that, with the programme for government having been published this week, there is a bit of a discrepancy on detail? We hope to see that detail soon. Do you agree that, before the process begins, the baseline costs, implementation costs, expected cash savings and measurable outcomes should be published for every major reform? I am interested to hear your thoughts on that.

Public Service Reform Committee [Draft]

Delivering Public Service Reform

Meeting date: 3 September 2026

Max Bannerman

Can I open that question up to you, Dr MacRae?