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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
  7. Current session: 14 May 2026 to 13 November 2026
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Public Service Reform Committee [Draft]

Delivering Public Service Reform

Meeting date: 8 October 2026

Max Bannerman

That is all right.

In your opening remarks, you talked about not having a specific mandate.

Public Service Reform Committee [Draft]

Delivering Public Service Reform

Meeting date: 8 October 2026

Max Bannerman

I am interested in your view on this—I am not trying to coax you to give a certain answer. There is Scotland Excel, which serves local government; there is NHS National Procurement; there is Advanced Procurement for Universities & Colleges; and there is central Government procurement, which serves other areas of the public sector. Has anybody considered consolidating them? Is there duplication across those four organisations? Do you have a broad view on that? Would that be feasible?

Public Service Reform Committee [Draft]

Delivering Public Service Reform

Meeting date: 8 October 2026

Max Bannerman

Good morning. I thank both witnesses for their opening statements.

Julie Welsh, the national savings programme has reviewed, I think, £720 million of local government spending over three years and has presented £18 million-worth of opportunities to councils. How much of that £18 million have councils taken up? What has been banked as a result?

Public Service Reform Committee [Draft]

Delivering Public Service Reform

Meeting date: 8 October 2026

Max Bannerman

Thank you. It will be interesting to look at it.

When it comes to scaling up and piloting the approach nationally, some of the collaborative work has had limited uptake. Which specific frameworks does that apply to? What is the cost in savings that are not being realised as a result?

Public Service Reform Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 1 October 2026

Max Bannerman

That is a good point. AI is coming on stream very quickly, and more and more members of the public are using it. One thing that came to mind when I was looking into the issue is AI-generated freedom of information requests. I am sure that those will be swamping various Government departments, public bodies and agencies—dare I say it, some of our researchers in Parliament might be doing that as we speak.

Public Service Reform Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 1 October 2026

Max Bannerman

With the convener’s permission, I will follow up with the cabinet secretary directly, but it would be good to take you up on that offer to come in with digital officials, because, as you say, it is a challenge but an opportunity as well. It is about balancing those, which will be important to your department’s work going forward.

Public Service Reform Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 1 October 2026

Max Bannerman

You can come back to me on that point.

Public Service Reform Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 1 October 2026

Max Bannerman

It was that the market has moved during initial procurement.

Public Service Reform Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 1 October 2026

Max Bannerman

Good morning, cabinet secretary. I want to discuss the update that you gave us on 7 September—the amber and red-tracked actions. We had a brief exchange about this at the end of my main question, and I note that, in your letter to the convener on 30 September, you provided a fairly comprehensive update on the transformation of digital resourcing. I want to focus more specifically on artificial intelligence. Two actions on AI in that table were rated red. Where do you see that work going, and what action have you taken since the last meeting?

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Public Service Reform Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 1 October 2026

Max Bannerman

We heard last week from Scottish Borders Council about an AI tool that cuts a social worker’s reporting time by a third. I am sure you would accept that that is clearly a huge cost saving and a huge efficiency saving. That is one model, and I am sure there are many others that we have not heard of yet. What will it take in the budget to scale that kind of thing up nationally?

Obviously, that is proactive use of AI, which is one aspect. I will come on to demand for AI shortly, but could you answer that question first?