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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 16 September 2026
Amanda Bland
Is that working?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 16 September 2026
Amanda Bland
You are trying to support them with that, but if we had three front-line-duty police officers on the panel what would they say to me? I am trying to understand the reality of their day-to-day situation.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 16 September 2026
Amanda Bland
Good morning to our witnesses, and thank you for your time today. I have a question for Kevin O’Neill. I have a document in front of me that Police Scotland sent to us, which I will refer to. I would like a better understanding of the DBI pathways. It says:
“Police Scotland has DBI pathways in 11 of the 13 local policing divisions”,
and notes that Edinburgh City East and Forth Valley do not have a pathway. Will you explain why that is?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 16 September 2026
Amanda Bland
That means that there is a huge gap.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 16 September 2026
Amanda Bland
Yes, our witnesses have talked about that in some detail.
Chief Superintendent Cree, can you talk me through body-worn cameras? Does everybody have them?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 16 September 2026
Amanda Bland
Thank you.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 16 September 2026
Amanda Bland
To clarify, if I am not trained in level 1 DBI and if a person is in crisis, what do I do?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 16 September 2026
Amanda Bland
Within the community.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 16 September 2026
Amanda Bland
That means that a lot of people are referring in. What is the maximum waiting time?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 16 September 2026
Amanda Bland
I ask because, recently, I phoned the police and I waited for 25 minutes on the line. I needed help. The police said to me that a police officer would come out in four days’ time. I said, “I don’t understand what you are talking about.” They said, “We just don’t have police officers.” Because I made a fuss, two police officers turned up. They said, “You were number 40 out of 41 incidents in the area. There are four of us on duty, and we double up.” They sat and criticised Police Scotland. I have never heard that from members of the police force.
I think that is a sign that the situation has reached absolute crisis point. They took an opportunity to tell me how bad it was, which is why I am telling you. As a victim of a crime, I felt sorry for the police officers. They did their best and were professional—I have no criticism of them—but they said, “We do not have the capacity.” When I asked about the 25 minutes that I had to wait, they said, “You’re lucky—it normally takes an hour.”
You might know that I used to be a police officer, and that was such a dramatic change, because I know for a fact that I would never have had a conversation such as that with a member of the public, but that is how the officers felt at that moment. There needs to be a reality check between what we hear in committee and what is happening on the ground. I think that Pauline McNeill was trying to understand the reality of it, because the reality can be painful.
Nobody has mentioned section 32 of the Police and Fire Reform (Scotland) Act 2012, which requires policing to have regard to the prevention of harm and the promotion of wellbeing. Is that the core legislation that has caused the crisis?