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Economy, Tourism and Energy Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 8 September 2026
Duncan Massey
Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the third meeting in 2026 of the Economy, Tourism and Energy Committee. I do not know whether it is standard to keep counting the numbers all through the year, but we will see how it goes. We have no apologies from members.
Agenda item 1 is to decide whether to take agenda item 3, on pre-budget scrutiny, in private. Do members agree to take that item in private?
Members indicated agreement.
Economy, Tourism and Energy Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 8 September 2026
Duncan Massey
I am cognisant of the time. We have been talking for an hour and a half, and it feels like we have just scratched the surface. I invite our witnesses to make some brief final remarks. If you had one specific ask of the Scottish Government, what would it be?
Economy, Tourism and Energy Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 8 September 2026
Duncan Massey
Martyn Day has a supplementary question.
Economy, Tourism and Energy Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 8 September 2026
Duncan Massey
Rich, do you have a view on the job creation side?
Economy, Tourism and Energy Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 8 September 2026
Duncan Massey
Thank you. That was a tremendous series of introductions. Before I bring in members, I will ask one overview question. Listening to what has been said, I can see that people’s points of view are obviously quite different, but I heard one big area of agreement regarding the AI adoption piece. Heather Thomson talked about SMEs and Rich Wilson talked about scale-ups and getting more into that. Sandy Begbie talked about scaling it up in financial services and Michael Rovatsos talked about the adoption of AI as a key area for Scotland. Is that a fair summary of the evidence? Does what we heard reflect the areas in which we think Scotland is best placed in this regard?
Economy, Tourism and Energy Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 8 September 2026
Duncan Massey
Agenda item 2 is the main session of the day. We will be talking about artificial intelligence and its impact on Scotland’s economy. AI is a vast topic, but this is the Economy, Tourism and Energy Committee, so this particular evidence session will focus on its impact on the economy.
I am pleased that we have four expert witnesses today: Heather Thomson, chief executive officer, The Data Lab; Rich Wilson, chief executive officer, Gigged.AI; Sandy Begbie, chief executive, Scottish Financial Enterprise; and Michael Rovatsos, professor of artificial intelligence, University of Edinburgh. I will ask each witness in turn to introduce themselves and to make some key opening remarks about AI and its potential impact on Scotland’s economy.
Economy, Tourism and Energy Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 8 September 2026
Duncan Massey
Thanks very much, panel. It feels as if we could talk about the subject 10 times and have 10 very different conversations. Thanks again for all your input.
That concludes our public business for today. Our next meeting will be on Tuesday 15 September, when we will discuss AI again, looking more at the data centres and energy use aspect.
11:05
Meeting continued in private until 11:54.
Economy, Tourism and Energy Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 8 September 2026
Duncan Massey
Of course.
Economy, Tourism and Energy Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 8 September 2026
Duncan Massey
Do you think that part of the problem is that we have a traditional procurement mindset, whereby you say, “I need a new database,” or something, whereas, as Michael Rovatsos touched on, the AI model is perhaps more a case of sticking five engineers into a business and, after six months, they will have improved processes and things like that. It is not so much that you are procuring a product in the traditional sense; you are procuring a new way of doing things, and that is difficult for people to get their heads around. Is that fair?
Economy, Tourism and Energy Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 8 September 2026
Duncan Massey
Gary Bouse has been patiently waiting to ask a question.