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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
  7. Current session: 14 May 2026 to 5 October 2026
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Education and Gaelic Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 22 September 2026

Duncan Dunlop

Will the policy deliver that?

Education and Gaelic Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 22 September 2026

Duncan Dunlop

If you do not mind my saying so, I am hearing a bit of scepticism about whether the policy is beneficial for children, so who does the policy benefit?

Education and Gaelic Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 22 September 2026

Duncan Dunlop

I know that this was not necessarily your idea but, to go back to Karen Adam’s initial question, what do you think the metrics of success are that will allow us to know whether the policy will benefit children and young people? What should we look for that says that the policy will benefit education?

Education and Gaelic Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 22 September 2026

Duncan Dunlop

At the moment, we do not have teachers at all.

That is all—thank you, convener.

Education and Gaelic Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 22 September 2026

Duncan Dunlop

It was somebody who works in the system in England who told me this, so it might be wrong, but I was told that Teach First-qualified graduates in England are not allowed to teach in Scotland, because their qualifications are not recognised here. I thought that that was a shame, if we have massive deficiencies in certain areas, that those people could not fulfil those positions. Even if somebody is just there for the short term, it is better to have somebody teaching the subject than nobody, as far as I can see.

Education and Gaelic Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 22 September 2026

Duncan Dunlop

The more I listen to and read about the discussion on this area, the less sense it seems to make to me as a priority that we are choosing for an education system which—as we know after last week’s programme for international student assessment results—is struggling in certain areas.

The Institute of Physics in Scotland says that 18 secondary schools do not have a full-time physics teacher. I know people who have been trying to teach themselves online. A total of 55 per cent of our secondary school teaching positions are filled, and we are going to reduce further, by between 6 and 7 per cent, face-to-face teaching time with students. I cannot see how that is going to benefit the students, given the current situation that we are looking at. I wonder whether there is something else in which we should invest that money. We know that we are going to be facing significant reductions in the public purse in the current session of Parliament.

You have experience, and I get that you all represent different bodies. What would you invest the resource in, if you had £300 million to improve the outcomes for our learners? I am interested in hearing contributions from all of you, given your different perspectives. You have been teachers or have been involved with negotiating through your various bodies in your lifetime.

Education and Gaelic Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 22 September 2026

Duncan Dunlop

I am interested in your personal view—you have enough professional experience in this—but I guess that that might create a conflict of interest for you.

On a slightly associated area, it is good to hear about additional support needs. As a political party, we were very strong on recognising that issue, because teachers told us that it was a solution that they really wanted us to focus on.

You talked about an equivalent to Teach First, with the potential to retrain local authority employees or transfer those who have the skills. In England, they have the Teach First programme, in which the training is condensed so that somebody from a different profession can come into teaching in the area. Are there ways to enable that to happen—to meet the needs of those living in more rural areas, for example?

Education and Gaelic Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 15 September 2026

Duncan Dunlop

Yes.

Education and Gaelic Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 15 September 2026

Duncan Dunlop

It is not, but hang on a minute. We are expecting them to be held by a stable, lifelong, loving relationship in their own birth families.

Education and Gaelic Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 15 September 2026

Duncan Dunlop

Fraser McKinlay, what is your solution?