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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
  7. Current session: 14 May 2026 to 1 October 2026
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Criminal courts backlog follow-up: Transforming for the future”

Meeting date: 10 September 2026

David Kirkwood

Okay. If the modelling showed a speeding up of court processes, I would imagine that that would produce a bulge of convictions coming through. Were the implications for the prison estate considered, too?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Criminal courts backlog follow-up: Transforming for the future”

Meeting date: 10 September 2026

David Kirkwood

Paragraph 52 mentions that

“escalation processes are clearly set out but are not … implemented effectively.”

Is there a particular reason for that, or do people simply not know about the processes?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Criminal courts backlog follow-up: Transforming for the future”

Meeting date: 10 September 2026

David Kirkwood

Yes. In software development, backlogs and workloads are synonymous. In most people’s minds, if there is a backlog, it means that there is an excess delay in what is being delivered. However, what you are measuring is the workload in the courts.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Criminal courts backlog follow-up: Transforming for the future”

Meeting date: 10 September 2026

David Kirkwood

Are we becoming a more lawless society if more serious cases are going through? Is that an inference that can be drawn?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Criminal courts backlog follow-up: Transforming for the future”

Meeting date: 10 September 2026

David Kirkwood

At the top of page 3, the report says:

“There have also been some recent legal judgements that could impact on the backlogs”.

Will those impacts be positive or negative?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Criminal courts backlog follow-up: Transforming for the future”

Meeting date: 10 September 2026

David Kirkwood

I am talking about the paragraph after that, where it talks about modelling. I am not particularly interested in the statistics.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Criminal courts backlog follow-up: Transforming for the future”

Meeting date: 10 September 2026

David Kirkwood

I apologise—it is in paragraph 5:

“Several new Acts have been implemented that will impact on court processes and potentially the backlog. There have also been some recent legal judgements that could impact on the backlogs.”

Will they have a positive or negative impact?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Criminal courts backlog follow-up: Transforming for the future”

Meeting date: 10 September 2026

David Kirkwood

Let me find my next question—excuse me, I am discovering the limitations of my technology.

Paragraph 31 of the report, just below exhibit 5, talks about modelling. Modelling is always a contentious topic.

It is a lot easier to skew modelling towards the interests of the modeller than people think. How good do you think the modelling is? Do you do it yourself, or do you get somebody else to do it?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Auditor General for Scotland (Work Programme)

Meeting date: 3 September 2026

David Kirkwood

Thank you for coming this morning and for the copious briefing documents, which are very useful. I refer you to the infographic on page 4 of your work programme document, and particularly the small section on environmental sustainability and climate change. It is good to see those two things being separated slightly, because climate change seems to be synonymous with environmental sustainability in many people’s eyes.

You mention “Delivering climate change commitments”, but reduction in carbon dioxide emissions seems to be the overriding factor in absolutely everything under the title of the environment. Do you ever quantify the costs to society of the reduction in industry, the reduction in economic output, the loss of jobs and higher energy costs because of that?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Auditor General for Scotland (Work Programme)

Meeting date: 3 September 2026

David Kirkwood

I will move on to something entirely different. Section 22 reports are dreaded by public bodies because they are exception reports and are generally issued only when something has gone seriously wrong. Has any consideration been given to issuing such a report as an exception when something has gone really well, as a good example to everybody else?