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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
  7. Current session: 14 May 2026 to 29 September 2026
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Transport Committee [Draft]

Programme for Government

Meeting date: 9 September 2026

Stephen Flynn

I am comfortable with the answers that I gave to the convener.

Transport Committee [Draft]

Programme for Government

Meeting date: 9 September 2026

Stephen Flynn

The phrase “supporting progress” is pretty easy to interpret. I do not think that I need build on my earlier answer to Collette Stevenson.

Transport Committee [Draft]

Programme for Government

Meeting date: 9 September 2026

Stephen Flynn

It will. [Laughter.] I will keep trying; I have been told to be nice. I am joking.

I guess that we all get frustrated when it feels as though things are just pushed into the long grass. Some of it comes down to the fact that, often, it can be politically uncomfortable to make decisions. It is sometimes about the length of time that it takes to reach decisions, because of the various steps that officials need to go through before they can offer clear, tangible advice for ministers to respond to.

My point is that, when TS comes in-house, there will be a direct line of ministerial responsibility—there is no hiding away from that. After that has happened, I expect that I will be able to offer you the clarity that you seek at committee meetings about any concerns with individual projects. I am sure that we will come on to that over the next couple of hours.

Transport Committee [Draft]

Programme for Government

Meeting date: 9 September 2026

Stephen Flynn

It is not like you to be direct. It is okay.

Transport Committee [Draft]

Programme for Government

Meeting date: 9 September 2026

Stephen Flynn

About 76 per cent of operators have signed up. The number of smaller operators among those outstanding has a cumulative effect on the figures. We expect more to come on board. It is difficult for some of them to change their processes, as I said in response to Collette, but many of those smaller companies offer limited services in specific areas. I expect the number of operators who are signed up to increase in the coming days and weeks.

Transport Committee [Draft]

Programme for Government

Meeting date: 9 September 2026

Stephen Flynn

Look, Mr Simpson—how can I phrase this without just repeating what I said to Mr MacKinnon? The situation as it stands is not one that we would organically seek to create. I am very open to the ongoing internal dialogue that is taking place, and will continue to take place, in relation to what the final outcome could and should look like. I will not offer a preference at this stage, because I am not going to pre-empt that work.

Transport Committee [Draft]

Programme for Government

Meeting date: 9 September 2026

Stephen Flynn

I am always keen to look at international comparators, and I will certainly heed your advice, Mr Simpson.

Transport Committee [Draft]

Programme for Government

Meeting date: 9 September 2026

Stephen Flynn

The Government made a commitment to deliver £10 million of resilience support to the isles, and that is exactly what we are doing, but, importantly, what we are doing goes far beyond any resilience fund. I am sure that you and I would agree that we do not want to be in a situation where there needs to be a resilience fund.

Transport Committee [Draft]

Programme for Government

Meeting date: 9 September 2026

Stephen Flynn

It is a reflection of the challenges that have been faced. However, we have a vessel that is due to come on stream over the course of the next six weeks to two months; we have another vessel from Ferguson’s, the MV Glen Rosa, that is due in November; and we have two more vessels that are due to come on stream early in the new year. That, on top of the small vessel replacement programme, will transform reliability in the isles. That is where the focus of folk and businesses on the isles will be, because that will provide them with the long-term resilience that they desperately deserve.

Transport Committee [Draft]

Programme for Government

Meeting date: 9 September 2026

Stephen Flynn

On the point about usage, the Tory Government in England brought in a post-pandemic £2 bus fare cap. I was an MP at the time, so I paid attention to what it was doing. If I recall correctly, there was a roughly 13 per cent increase in patronage, but some of that was due to the fact that people’s behaviour was going back to normal. There was about a 5 per cent increase in the number of people who took journeys, and that stands as a kind of starting point in my mind.

The early internal evaluations from the Highlands and Islands have shown a good uptake, and I would expect that to be the case in the SPT area as well. That is important, because there has been a constant decline in the number of people who make passenger journeys in the SPT area over the course of the past 10 to 12 years, which benefits absolutely nobody. That is why we are investing in the bus infrastructure fund, and it is also why there is a strong argument for the £2 fare cap.

We always have to wrestle with the question about value for money. Ultimately, we have chosen to intervene in this way because we are all so conscious of the extent of the financial pressures that are facing our constituents, who deserve a Government that takes action on their behalf. On the balance of ensuring value for money and being the right thing to do, I am wholly convinced that the bus fare cap is the right thing to do, which is why we will try to extend it to the rest of Scotland as quickly as we possibly can.