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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
  7. Current session: 14 May 2026 to 8 November 2026
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Public Audit Committee

“Post-school education and skills reform”

Meeting date: 17 September 2026

Alan Brown

I have one more question, if that is okay.

Public Audit Committee

“Post-school education and skills reform”

Meeting date: 17 September 2026

Alan Brown

On resourcing, key message number 4 in your report highlights that the project was understaffed, but, in recommendation 5, you say that a resource plan should be put in place. How did you identify that, first, the project was understaffed but, secondly, there needed to be a resource plan? I would have thought that you would measure staffing against a resource plan.

Public Audit Committee

“Post-school education and skills reform”

Meeting date: 17 September 2026

Alan Brown

Was that picked up in the original business case, or has it just come to light as the project has evolved and there has been an updated financial memorandum?

Public Audit Committee

“Post-school education and skills reform”

Meeting date: 17 September 2026

Alan Brown

I have a couple of questions about Skills Development Scotland, which is another body that has come under the Scottish Funding Council, as I understand from the report. According to paragraph 78,

“SDS does not have clarity about its future role”

yet, according to paragraph 70, SDS has estimated that a restructuring programme will take three years, and it has outlined a range of potential redundancy costs and savings. How can SDS say, on the one hand, that it does not know what its role will be in the future, and, on the other, “Oh, by the way, here are the redundancies that we’re probably going to have to make over a period of three years”? If it does not know its future, I do not know how it can develop a restructuring plan. How does that fit into the wider mix?

Public Audit Committee

“Post-school education and skills reform”

Meeting date: 17 September 2026

Alan Brown

You mentioned that the Government was quite open about the fact that graduate apprenticeships do not have buy-in from employers. Why is there a lack of buy-in? Is it because of the concept? Is it because of the target numbers? Is support required? The engineering company that I worked with before I became an MSP brought through graduate apprenticeships in a very good way, combining skills and learning, so I am curious about the potential issues.

Public Audit Committee

“Post-school education and skills reform”

Meeting date: 17 September 2026

Alan Brown

Is that the purpose of the refresh programme? If governance weaknesses still need to be resolved, how do you manage and put in place a refresh programme? Again, why would that work come before the delivery plan? I might be easily confused, but—

Public Audit Committee

“Post-school education and skills reform”

Meeting date: 17 September 2026

Alan Brown

I agree that a resource plan should be in place, but the issue is that you have also identified that the programme was understaffed.

Public Audit Committee

“Post-school education and skills reform”

Meeting date: 17 September 2026

Alan Brown

You touched on the overall cost of £26 million, which is obviously small in relation to the overall spend. Page 35 sets out that, within the figure of £26 million, the biggest single item is £8 million for a pension shortfall, which accounts for a third of the project costs. Do we know how that pension shortfall comes about, and, if that is a result of merging bodies, does it have wider implications for further public sector reform?

Public Audit Committee

“Post-school education and skills reform”

Meeting date: 17 September 2026

Alan Brown

For me, that is fundamental and is just another illustration of the issue.

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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 16 September 2026

Alan Brown

Okay. Just to follow on from Kim Schmulian’s question, I would just point out, for clarity, that personal allowance thresholds are set by the UK Government. Therefore, even if you thought that that was a good way of growing the economy and having people paying less tax, it is outwith the Scottish Government’s control. Is that not correct?