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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
  7. Current session: 14 May 2026 to 9 November 2026
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Scotland’s colleges 2026”

Meeting date: 24 September 2026

Alan Brown

Thank you.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Scotland’s colleges 2026”

Meeting date: 24 September 2026

Alan Brown

Was it repaid and then given back or was it just rebadged?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Scotland’s colleges 2026”

Meeting date: 24 September 2026

Alan Brown

If I were a college principal—I will be parochial and mention Ayrshire College, which does a great job in my constituency—why would I not get that money to deal with the national pay awards? Is it really just the case that the college has said that, because it is facing such financial pressures, it needs extra support?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Scotland’s colleges 2026”

Meeting date: 24 September 2026

Alan Brown

I have one more question about finance. A few years ago, Ayrshire College had the big financial burden of a private finance initiative legacy cost for one of its campuses. I think that that has now disappeared, but has any assessment been made of ongoing PFI legacy issues? A lot of those contracts have now come to an end, so is there light at the end of the tunnel for sustainability in some cases, where PFI contracts are coming to an end? Is that being looked at?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“The National Fraud Initiative in Scotland 2026”

Meeting date: 24 September 2026

Alan Brown

I will start with the supplementary. I recognise what you have said, but, following on from Dawn Black’s questions about looking at things retrospectively, it strikes me that, given that the whole process is called the national fraud initiative, we should be able to gain a wider understanding of how much fraud there has been, relative to error or underpayment. That seems fundamental, given the title of the exercise. Therefore, I would have thought that somebody somewhere should look at what the scale of fraud is, with a view to understanding that and improving systems.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“The National Fraud Initiative in Scotland 2026”

Meeting date: 24 September 2026

Alan Brown

I am probably being a bit pedantic, but on deterrence, if we do not know the scale of fraud because of a mix of error and pensioners not being notified in time, how do we estimate the deterrent effect? Who knows about the NFI and would say, “Right, I am not going to fraudulently make a claim because the NFI will pick up on it?” I am curious to understand how the deterrence works. I absolutely take the point about the assurance process and all that, but I am struggling to get my head around deterrence.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“The National Fraud Initiative in Scotland 2026”

Meeting date: 24 September 2026

Alan Brown

But if there was a will, there could be a way. The scripts could be written and the powers could be used, if there was a will to do that.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Scotland’s colleges 2026”

Meeting date: 24 September 2026

Alan Brown

I was about to ask about unmet demand, which you just touched on. You recommended that the analysis should have been undertaken last year. Does it not need to be done alongside the work and reports on future costs and future investments? We need to understand course demand and actually plan for the outcomes. Is it not a key piece of work that needs to go alongside the other work?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Scotland’s colleges 2026”

Meeting date: 24 September 2026

Alan Brown

To go back to the 40,000 headline figure, it might be because, in some cases, people are, as you said, going into higher education or taking up apprenticeships. Whose responsibility is it to analyse that data? Do we know how the 40,000 reduction is spread across colleges? Is there a much bigger reduction at certain colleges? Do we know the demographic spread in terms of the student number reduction? That is also really important.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Scotland’s colleges 2026”

Meeting date: 24 September 2026

Alan Brown

Are there any timescales for the SFC to produce the unmet demand analysis?