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Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 September 2026
Alan Brown
Thank you.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 September 2026
Alan Brown
Was it repaid and then given back or was it just rebadged?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 September 2026
Alan Brown
If I were a college principal—I will be parochial and mention Ayrshire College, which does a great job in my constituency—why would I not get that money to deal with the national pay awards? Is it really just the case that the college has said that, because it is facing such financial pressures, it needs extra support?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 September 2026
Alan Brown
I have one more question about finance. A few years ago, Ayrshire College had the big financial burden of a private finance initiative legacy cost for one of its campuses. I think that that has now disappeared, but has any assessment been made of ongoing PFI legacy issues? A lot of those contracts have now come to an end, so is there light at the end of the tunnel for sustainability in some cases, where PFI contracts are coming to an end? Is that being looked at?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 September 2026
Alan Brown
I will start with the supplementary. I recognise what you have said, but, following on from Dawn Black’s questions about looking at things retrospectively, it strikes me that, given that the whole process is called the national fraud initiative, we should be able to gain a wider understanding of how much fraud there has been, relative to error or underpayment. That seems fundamental, given the title of the exercise. Therefore, I would have thought that somebody somewhere should look at what the scale of fraud is, with a view to understanding that and improving systems.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 September 2026
Alan Brown
I am probably being a bit pedantic, but on deterrence, if we do not know the scale of fraud because of a mix of error and pensioners not being notified in time, how do we estimate the deterrent effect? Who knows about the NFI and would say, “Right, I am not going to fraudulently make a claim because the NFI will pick up on it?” I am curious to understand how the deterrence works. I absolutely take the point about the assurance process and all that, but I am struggling to get my head around deterrence.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 September 2026
Alan Brown
But if there was a will, there could be a way. The scripts could be written and the powers could be used, if there was a will to do that.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 September 2026
Alan Brown
I was about to ask about unmet demand, which you just touched on. You recommended that the analysis should have been undertaken last year. Does it not need to be done alongside the work and reports on future costs and future investments? We need to understand course demand and actually plan for the outcomes. Is it not a key piece of work that needs to go alongside the other work?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 September 2026
Alan Brown
To go back to the 40,000 headline figure, it might be because, in some cases, people are, as you said, going into higher education or taking up apprenticeships. Whose responsibility is it to analyse that data? Do we know how the 40,000 reduction is spread across colleges? Is there a much bigger reduction at certain colleges? Do we know the demographic spread in terms of the student number reduction? That is also really important.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 September 2026
Alan Brown
Are there any timescales for the SFC to produce the unmet demand analysis?