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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 January 2026
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Martin Whitfield

I apologise to Graham Simpson, but I have a final question before I come to him.

At present, according to my understanding, lords essentially suspend their membership of the House of Lords for the period, and that cannot be reinstated without it being a matter of public notice. What was the policy reason for not being satisfied with that, but requiring entire termination from the House of Lords?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Martin Whitfield

Before you continue, Graham, Ruth Maguire has a supplementary question on that point.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Martin Whitfield

Thank you. Graham?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Martin Whitfield

By way of clarification, the purpose of the statutory instruments is not to remove someone from being a councillor or an MP or being in the House of Lords; it would prevent an individual sitting as an MSP if those other consequences existed outside of those periods. It is not about this place ordering someone to step down as a councillor and saying, “Should you choose not to, the consequence will be that you cannot be an MSP.” Is that correct?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Martin Whitfield

The committee will report on the outcome of the decisions on the SSIs in due course. Are members content to delegate the authority to approve the draft report to the convener?

Members indicated agreement.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Martin Whitfield

That is excellent. Thank you. Sue Webber, would you like to start the questions?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Martin Whitfield

There is no deduction in relation to members of the House of Lords because, as you say in the policy document, they do not receive a salary; they receive an attendance allowance. What consideration was given to that, perhaps drawing on the consultation, and why was it not considered appropriate to treat the attendance allowance in the same way as the salaries for councillors and MPs?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Martin Whitfield

Yes. I go back to the fundamental reasons for seeking to end dual mandates, namely that it is rightly considered that roles such as councillor, MP and MSP are full-time jobs and that we expect the individuals who fulfil those roles to give them their full-time commitment. The discussions that we have had about the financial side relate to the practical implementation of one of the consequences, whereby individuals benefit—I use the word “benefit”, although I doubt that any of them feel that it is a benefit in this sense—from receiving, in effect, two salaries for a period of time. That is the policy decision in relation to what we are trying to achieve today, is it not?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Martin Whitfield

Who will take responsibility for the monitoring?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 18 September 2025

Martin Whitfield

Good. My other question, which is about the equality impact assessment, is twofold. First, why did it take so long to produce, given the content of the order? Secondly, why was it published so late?