Skip to main content
Loading…

Chamber and committees

Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

Filter your results Hide all filters

Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 July 2025
Select which types of business to include


Select level of detail in results

Displaying 1811 contributions

|

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

I will bring in Annie Wells.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

That is very kind of you.

Graham Simpson, do you want to raise anything else before I let these good people go?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

We need to maintain that first principle, which is about having an agreed standard of behaviour. If you fall below it, one of the consequences could be recall and the loss of your ability to represent the people who sent you here, which is the bit that underpins this.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

Excellent. That takes me to what you were hinting at, Annabel, so I will come to you first. Do you think that there is a risk with the bill that some MSPs will be disproportionately targeted? That might not be the deliberate intent of the bill, but what is the level of risk of that disproportionate targeting, particularly to women and people from underrepresented backgrounds when compared with others? What are the concerns of Elect Her?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

I am sure that we will address those.

Willie, what are your concerns about the risk with regard to underrepresented groups, and women in particular? I suppose that it is about the politicisation of the process.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

You are calling for clarity of message and expectation and for that to be revisited so that individual members can remember and test such knowledge when they are concerned about circumstances.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

Is there a challenge in the bill having an objective assessment on, say, attendance? Other examples might be put forward that are, in essence, conduct related—that is, aspects that are internal to the Parliament’s code of conduct. When you apply the subjective reality of the individuals who fulfil the role of MSP, it is hard to reconcile that with a stark objective rule such as one that states that they must be present in Parliament at least once in 180 days. If someone wanted to game the system—I do not think that any MSP or elected official would ever choose to do so—their turning up once would take them out of the spotlight. However, the subjective reality of an individual’s life might put them in the spotlight when that spotlight should not be on them.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

That offer is now on the record. Thank you.

I thank the witnesses for attending today and for their evidence. If you have any thoughts afterwards, please feel free to correspond with the committee. I hope you will not mind us doing the same if we have any questions. I particularly thank Annabel Mullin for attending remotely. I am glad that that worked as well as it did—it shows that hybrid working can work properly.

That brings the public part of the meeting to an end.

11:09 Meeting continued in private until 11:22.  

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

So, there is a potential tension. Therefore, the committee should look closely at the triggering effects, because, if we do not, that conflict could potentially cause a bigger problem.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

Thank you. I am sure that we will explore some of those points in detail later. I pass over to Sue Webber.