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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 9 November 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

In opening the discussion, you talked about the Venice commission’s strong suggestions that any variation from the electoral quota should be up to 15 per cent of the quota. In essence, that speaks to the weight of value of an individual vote in any area. That is why it exists—so that my vote has the same value as another’s. However, much of the Scotland Act 1998 talks about moving away from that approach when the circumstances of an area speak to it. Do you have enough flexibility to reflect the intention of the Scotland Act 1998?

That speaks to what Emma Roddick said about the association of those islands outside of the protected islands, while you have spoken about the distances that exist in some constituencies, Professor Henderson. Is there sufficient flexibility for you to reflect what you have to achieve and—this is the difficult bit—reflect what the people of Scotland expect to be achieved by creating constituencies and then grouping them into regions?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

Absolutely—what if there is one sitting on top of that? That is why I ask the question of the Government.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

The expenditure on a petition might or might not be an election expense, irrespective of when it happens. If it falls within certain periods and it is such an expense, it will cause problems. I am inviting the Scottish Government to consider the issue in a bit more detail, because it potentially ties into whether a petition—if it becomes an uncontrollable event—is the right vehicle to do that first part.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

Thankfully, it is not the committee members who are giving evidence today.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

Let me say “situation” rather than “responsibility”.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

I will leave that there.

I turn to the Scottish Government’s point of view on another piece of evidence. The situation for councillors relates to the failure to attend a specific event that tends to be held monthly, but the bill talks about a period of time. Is the Scottish Government concerned that there is a fundamental difference between the requirement of a councillor to attend full council meetings and the requirement in the bill, which is just to attend physically?

You have expressed a view about physical attendance, and we have heard views in the committee and in evidence that it is actually really easy just to come and swipe in. However, we do not have a registration rule in the Parliament. People who have voted can be identified, and I understand that there are often freedom of information requests about who was in the chamber—we can always look at the television. However, is the Government concerned that identifying attendance in the Parliament is very different to identifying whether councillors have attended a specific meeting that falls at various times, with times in between?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Dual Mandates

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

I again welcome Graham Simpson, given his interest in the matter, and I will be more than happy to bring him in at the appropriate time, if he has questions.

I will kick off. Minister, you said that you had 77 responses. I will not go into the split between individual and group responses, because I do not think that the responses have been published yet, so we have only headline figures. Were you satisfied with the level of response?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Dual Mandates

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

Let me put my question differently. Are you satisfied with the range of responses? Will they allow you to take your thinking forward with confidence about the view that is out there?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Dual Mandates

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

I am sorry—I did not mean to talk across you.

10:30  

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Dual Mandates

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

That is helpful.

Sue, do you want to come in?