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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 28 April 2022
Martin Whitfield
The next item on the agenda is evidence for our inquiry into future parliamentary procedures and practices. Joining us today on our first panel are the Rt Hon Karen Bradley MP, chair of the Procedure Committee of the House of Commons, and Lord Gardiner of Kimble, Senior Deputy Speaker of the House of Lords. I welcome them both.
Karen Bradley, please introduce yourself and tell us where the House of Commons is in regard to those matters.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 28 April 2022
Martin Whitfield
Yes, you have come back online. We missed part of your answer.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 28 April 2022
Martin Whitfield
I think that broadcasting was about to—
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 28 April 2022
Martin Whitfield
That is all right—the wonders of technology.
Once again, I introduce Denis Naughten from the Dáil. Good morning, Denis. As you are aware, the committee is looking at future procedures for the Scottish Parliament, based on our experience, coming out of Covid, of use of hybrid Parliament facilities so that members can contribute in the chamber and remotely. Would you like to make an opening statement so that members are aware of the circumstances in the Dáil?
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 28 April 2022
Martin Whitfield
I am grateful for your empathy, Edward.
I think that Mr Naughten wanted to comment on that point as well.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 28 April 2022
Martin Whitfield
That brings us to the end of our questions. I thank both of the witnesses in the second panel for attending. It has been fascinating to hear from other legislatures, which is an advantage of IT, although it is always a disappointment that we cannot share a cup of coffee or tea and chat outside the room, where so much of the work is done, as all parliamentarians are aware. I thank Mr Naughten TD and Mr Vermeylen, director of legislative service, for their contributions.
That draws to an end the public part of the meeting.
10:58 Meeting continued in private until 11:33.Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 28 April 2022
Martin Whitfield
I am glad to see that, no matter where a Parliament sits, members are governed by bells ringing in various places.
Bob Doris has the next set of questions.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 28 April 2022
Martin Whitfield
I apologise, Bob. I need to cut across you because of time. Does Lord Gardiner of Kimble have any comments? He needs to leave the meeting soon.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 28 April 2022
Martin Whitfield
I hope that witnesses will not mind if our clerks correspond with them so that they can place more evidence about other matters on the record. I thank the Rt Hon Karen Bradley and Lord Gardiner of Kimble for attending and giving evidence. It has been most helpful.
I suspend the meeting briefly so that we can change witnesses
10:05 Meeting suspended.Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 28 April 2022
Martin Whitfield
Thank you. That is incredibly helpful.
As you would both expect, I will move around the committee members, who have various areas of interest to explore. However, first, I will use my convener’s privilege to kick off by discussing the matter of proxy voting, which rightly predates the pandemic.
Proxy voting does not exist in the Scottish Parliament. Karen Bradley, will you briefly explain for the record how proxy voting works in the House of Commons?