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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 16 January 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Douglas Lumsden

You say that you do not have the money to enforce it, but you have to deal with it. You have to spend money on clearing up other people’s mess. Is there not something you could do to try to switch some of that spend to more enforcement as opposed to having to clear up?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Douglas Lumsden

I am concerned about the issue, as we are not that far away from 11 December. Given that we do not know how many applications there have been for exemptions, how will residents know whether they will still be able to park outside their house in a month’s time?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Douglas Lumsden

Would you expect local authorities to have a bit of leeway to start with—maybe to issue tickets that will not be enforced, just to make people aware that they cannot carry on with their behaviours until an exemption order is in place or they can ask for an exemption order?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Douglas Lumsden

It seems that we are almost in a situation where we can ban the use of something but perhaps not ban the sale of something, which would, for nappies, be a crazy situation to be in.

Have we run out of time, convener? I am happy to leave it there.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Douglas Lumsden

Minister, you said that there is still quite a lot of work to be done in the background—I think that you said that it is some admin. Will that all be done before 11 December?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Douglas Lumsden

I will move on to charges for single-use items. What are the key environmental opportunities of the proposed powers for charges on single-use items? How should charges be incorporated strategically in Scotland? Who would like to respond?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Douglas Lumsden

I was going to ask about that, Phoebe, because your submission mentions a national reusables scheme such as has been used in other areas. Would such a scheme mean that a plastic cup from, say, Starbucks, could be returned to Costa when you get your next cup?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Douglas Lumsden

I come to Michael Cook on the same topic. In your submission, rather than talking about reusable cups, you talk about trying to ban all single-use items where available alternatives exist.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Douglas Lumsden

To provide a bit of balance, I note that, in its submission, the Scottish Environment Services Association says that, although single-use disposable cups are

“visible”,

they amount to only

“0.036% of Scotland’s total waste. We would therefore suggest that there are other, more pressing parts of the waste management system in greater need of the Scottish Government’s resources ... with greater potential for carbon impact savings.”

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Douglas Lumsden

I remind the committee of my entry in the register of members’ interests, which shows that I was a councillor at the start of the current session.

As far as inconsiderate parking is concerned, minister, I think that we are all behind you with regard to the situation that you have described of buggies and wheelchairs trying to get down the pavement. Indeed, I would say that other areas, such as hedges overgrowing pavements, need to be tackled, too.

Sticking with pavement parking, though, I can think of streets in some of our bigger cities that have tenement buildings on either side of quite narrow roads. As a result, people park on the pavement to ensure that there is still space down the middle. I guess that, come 11 December, people who live in one of those areas could get a ticket every day. Is there anywhere that residents can go to see whether the council considers their street to be an exemption zone? Is there some process by which residents can lobby the council to make their street an exemption zone—as long, of course, as the pavement is wide enough to cope with wheelchairs, buggies et cetera?