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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 3 January 2026
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 12 September 2024

Paul O'Kane

You have pre-empted my next question, which you might have heard me ask earlier, on parity of esteem and ensuring that this is not about the voluntary sector doing something more cheaply than the public sector. Euan Leitch talked about being asked to do more and more with less, and we have heard from SCVO and others—as well as from Rachel Cackett—that many organisations are at their lowest ebb. What else can be done to start to repair the relationship? Whatever happens, there has to be a kind of reset moment—although I feel that we have had lots of “reset” moments over the years. Is there one thing that could be done immediately that would start to really change the conversation and the approach?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 12 September 2024

Paul O'Kane

I think that Allan Faulds wants to comment.

Meeting of the Parliament

Portfolio Question Time

Meeting date: 12 September 2024

Paul O'Kane

To ask the Scottish Government, in light of its pre-budget fiscal update on 3 September, what the potential impact will be of its “review and reprofile of recruitment” at Social Security Scotland on the agency’s provision of front-line services to clients. (S6O-03704)

Meeting of the Parliament

Portfolio Question Time

Meeting date: 12 September 2024

Paul O'Kane

The cabinet secretary will recognise that the most recent workforce statistics have shown that, following the growth of staffing in Social Security Scotland, those figures have largely stabilised at approximately 3,800. We also know that, despite that, there have been on-going issues with service provision, long processing times, long call waiting times and complexities in the system. Those issues have been well debated in the chamber. Will the cabinet secretary confirm that the decision will not have a detrimental impact on the progress that is being made?

Meeting of the Parliament

Decision Time

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Paul O'Kane

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My app froze. I just want to check that my “yes” vote was recorded.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Paul O'Kane

The challenge of being the last questioner is that we have covered a lot of ground. However, it is important to pull together some of what we have heard this morning.

In our conversation, we have focused on multiyear funding, as is right—it is at the core of the discussion. However, fair funding principles go beyond that, and a number of different things need to happen in order to move the issue forward. Witnesses might want to touch on anything that we have not covered on relationships or structures. We have heard about parity of esteem. What sorts of things need to be not just put forward but implemented and sustained in order to really help to renew that relationship?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Paul O'Kane

Some of the evidence that we heard when we met organisations over the summer was about the challenge between innovating and trying to sustain something that works. They said that, very often, people get stuck in a cycle between things having to be new and things that have been proved to work. You touched on that. Do you recognise it?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Paul O'Kane

Good morning. One aspect of the bill that the committee is interested in and concerned about is the domestic abuse provisions. We want to ensure that they are being engaged with. I note that, in the summer engagement, you met the Scottish Federation of Housing Associations and the Chartered Institute of Housing to discuss those provisions. Will you give an update on those conversations? Do you feel that the discussions were productive in enabling understanding of the required training and the capacity of social landlords to take the action that they will need to take?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Paul O'Kane

Thank you for that answer. I make a similar point to Mr Stewart’s point about not reinventing the wheel. A lot of good practice already exists, and many RSLs have good policy. However, the challenge is often to ensure that those policies can be put into practice and that action can follow, which is what everyone wants to see in such scenarios. The responses of Scottish Women’s Aid and the Scottish Women’s Convention pointed to the fact that the actions that were outlined and the recommendations that were contained in the report, “Improving housing outcomes for women and children experiencing domestic abuse” still have to be pushed forward and not lost in this context. Will the minister say something about progress on that and engagement with that piece of work?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Paul O'Kane

Ian Bruce, when you comment, will you say something about the connection and relationship with local government, about which we have also heard? We heard a lot about good and positive relationships from TSIs that are helping to manage funds for whole-family wellbeing, for example. That does not work everywhere, and there is no consistency. What do you want to see in that space?