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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 15 January 2026
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Meeting of the Parliament

Gender-sensitive Audit

Meeting date: 15 June 2023

Paul O'Kane

I thank Monica Lennon for that observation, and, in true Labour Party style, we could begin to have an internal discussion between us about the mechanisms that are used in the selection processes.

I think that Monica Lennon’s broad point is correct. The challenge for the Labour Party is that, now that the parliamentary Labour Party in the UK Parliament is 50 per cent women, all-women shortlists cannot be used, so it is looking at different mechanisms that work. We need to make sure that we do not think that that is the only system that can work. We need to look around the world and learn from other political parties that use different systems and try to find the systems that give us broad scope and allow us to think about what will we do.

Meeting of the Parliament

Gender-sensitive Audit

Meeting date: 15 June 2023

Paul O'Kane

Bob Doris makes a very good point. It is about encouraging more diversity and activism at the grass-roots level.

Meeting of the Parliament

Child Poverty

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Paul O'Kane

Although we should all welcome the new modelling that predicts that 90,000 fewer children are expected to live in poverty, it is deeply concerning to see that there is an upward trend in levels of persistent poverty across Scotland. That needs serious and focused action in order for the Government to meet the targets that we agreed across the Parliament, and any issues and current interventions must be dealt with speedily.

I have previously raised the issue with the First Minister of the disparity between eligibility for and uptake of the Scottish child payment, with up to 60,000 children in Scotland facing the possibility of missing out on receiving the payment. What action has the cabinet secretary taken to address those concerns, and will she continue consider the idea of automating that payment?

It is revealing that the cabinet secretary was only five paragraphs into the statement on child poverty before she shifted the focus back on to the constitution. The reality is that people across Scotland are being failed by two Governments who are too focused on their own internal issues rather than on relentlessly tackling poverty. Will the cabinet secretary focus on the detail of eradicating child poverty and outline to the chamber how the new modelling will affect the Scottish Government’s ability to hit its own targets on absolute poverty, relative poverty and persistent poverty?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Child Poverty and Parental Employment Inquiry

Meeting date: 8 June 2023

Paul O'Kane

I am particularly interested in eligibility and how we continue to expand provision, particularly for different age ranges. I will start with the work that has been done for two-year-olds. Audit Scotland’s recent report highlighted that progress is being made but that work still has further to go. I want to get a sense from the witnesses of whether we are getting it right in identifying eligible two-year-olds. Do councils need to use more of their discretionary powers to get to more families? What is your sense of what is currently happening?

Susan McGhee, would you like to start?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Child Poverty and Parental Employment Inquiry

Meeting date: 8 June 2023

Paul O'Kane

The committee received a submission from Early Years Scotland that focused on the point that the thresholds for access to that childcare are quite limiting. I think that 25 per cent of two-year-olds are eligible and many families are missing out. My question is whether those thresholds are right or whether we need to look at them and expand access. Susan McGhee, do you want to comment on that?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Child Poverty and Parental Employment Inquiry

Meeting date: 8 June 2023

Paul O'Kane

I will follow up on that point. A lot of our discussion has been about universal provision for three and four-year-olds. Are there significant challenges to universal provision for two-year-olds? What work can you see being done that might move us towards that position?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Child Poverty and Parental Employment Inquiry

Meeting date: 8 June 2023

Paul O'Kane

Witnesses are very helpfully leading my questions into the next area that I had planned to go to, which is always good. Rami Okasha, on the point about families who require additional support and have different needs, are councils using flexibility to provide childcare, particularly for two-year-olds, or could far more be done now, within discretionary powers and by looking more widely at eligibility, to address those circumstances?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Child Poverty and Parental Employment Inquiry

Meeting date: 8 June 2023

Paul O'Kane

Convener, are you happy for Susan McGhee to come in before I ask my final question?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Child Poverty and Parental Employment Inquiry

Meeting date: 8 June 2023

Paul O'Kane

We have spoken about two-year-olds, but I am keen to understand a bit more about school-age children who do not currently have clear eligibility in that space. Do you have a view on what kind of eligibility for school-age children would be the most helpful in trying to ensure that we support people into work and keep people in work? The Government is considering all of that.

I do not know whether anyone wants to add anything—I appreciate that it is a big question.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Child Poverty and Parental Employment Inquiry

Meeting date: 8 June 2023

Paul O'Kane

Yes.