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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 6 June 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 6 February 2025

Stephen Kerr

You describe a qualitative measurement, and it is very hard to measure quality compared with quantity.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 6 February 2025

Stephen Kerr

Oh, I am sorry. I misinterpreted that. That is my fault. I thought that you were talking in geographical terms, because the scheme involves global outreach as opposed to specifically EU outreach.

How do you account for the dramatic increase in the number of UK higher education learners having the opportunity to engage in student exchanges? I am talking specifically about students; we will come on to staff in a minute, if we have time.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 6 February 2025

Stephen Kerr

Yes. We have two witnesses who cannot make too many comments on policy issues—I respect that—so I am coming to you all the time, Professor Cardwell.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 6 February 2025

Stephen Kerr

Yes, of course—sorry. There are two Mr Browns in the room; that is the difficulty.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 6 February 2025

Stephen Kerr

I have a load of questions, so I am happy to come back in later.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 6 February 2025

Stephen Kerr

That would be brilliant—thank you. I am sorry—I did not mean to cut you out. I was directing my comments to Professor Cardwell.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 6 February 2025

Stephen Kerr

So, basically, it is pretty hard to say that there is evidence one way or the other.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 6 February 2025

Stephen Kerr

I suppose that the institutions have to get what they want out of the relationships in order for them to be justified.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 6 February 2025

Stephen Kerr

That is fair enough. I suspect that Ellie Bevan might be in the same boat. I keep coming back to you for opinions, Professor Cardwell. What is your response?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 6 February 2025

Stephen Kerr

It is accepted in the UK. I think that the UK was number 1 in 2021 and is always in the top two, which is something to be grateful for. That is because of the kinds of things that we are talking about.

I have a question for Ms Bevan from Taith. I admire the way in which the Labour Administration in Wales has invested in Taith. You basically have about £15 million a year over a four-year stretch to invest in it. In Scotland, there is nothing, other than—as Gillian Mackay mentioned—SEEP, which has, I think, had only £1 million of funding in total. We are really far behind Wales.

Have you had discussions with the Scottish Government about what we can learn from Taith so that we can fast-track the roll-out of our own version of it in Scotland? I think that that would have cross-party support.

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