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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 6 November 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Stephen Kerr

I have a question for Kerry Sharp. I think that I understand perfectly where you are coming from in terms of the risk and the cost of risk. When the media were covering the issue of the losses, it was mentioned that you had revealed that you anticipated a particularly big loss in the current financial year. Does that suggest an out-of-the-ordinary level of loss, or would that fit the profile of the losses and write-offs that you would expect to see from year to year?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Stephen Kerr

So, there is a balance in how you allocate your resources to supporting businesses through investing and providing business services.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Stephen Kerr

I am interested specifically in shared services. The issue was raised by the Deputy First Minister in a letter to the committee, and we were told that the three enterprise agencies are working together to achieve that. What has been achieved?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Stephen Kerr

The Deputy First Minister specified that there was an exercise currently under way. That was in December. Have you produced anything from that exercise that would help me, as a committee member, to understand exactly what the next level of those shared services and potential cost savings would be?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Stephen Kerr

I would love that. I will take you up on that.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 11 September 2025

Stephen Kerr

Good morning. Clearly this is a meeting about finances and money, so I will stick firmly to the remit of talking about the money dimension. Alison Turnbull, you are in the company of three chief executives, but you are the director of external relations and partnerships. Is that right?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 11 September 2025

Stephen Kerr

You are not responsible, in the first instance, for the finances of HES, are you?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 11 September 2025

Stephen Kerr

Yes, and the chairman has resigned.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 11 September 2025

Stephen Kerr

I find that a bit strange, to be honest. If we are going to talk about money, the money person should really be sitting at the table. That is my view, which I have expressed.

You have already mentioned that the chief executive is off on long-term illness. We had her before the committee previously and we discussed the new financial model with her. It has just been announced that the chairman is leaving—he is leaving before his time is due.

I am going to refer to some press reports about HES that suggest that there seems to be some form of crisis in the organisation. “Toxic” working environments have been mentioned. What is going on in HES?

The most recent report I have here says that the Government has launched a probe into the internal controls of HES. This meeting is all about money, just to be absolutely clear. How much public money did you say you receive?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 11 September 2025

Stephen Kerr

In any organisation, internal control and culture around internal control is critical to the management of public money. What is happening inside HES?