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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 November 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

That is very clear.

I will turn to David Belsey. In your written submission, you say:

“The EIS believes that extending such powers to issue regulations indefinitely could upset the balance of power between local authorities and the Scottish Government.”

Can you expand on that, please?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

They do not currently have that power, which is the opposite of the intent of the bill, which is to bring powers to the centre.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

Half the committee wants to come in but, before I bring in members, I will bring in Matthew Sweeney.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

Do you need legislation to do that, given that you have just described what seems to be a pretty robust framework for authorities? Why do we need new legislation?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

Yes. Before you ask them, I just want to get my head straight on this, so I have a final question for David Belsey. Is the EIS arguing for the opposite of what the bill seeks to do? Are you saying that powers should be given by the Government to local authorities? Is that the rebalancing that you are talking about?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

As well as the Government—yes, that is what I am saying. Your argument is that that power should be given to local authorities.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

I will bring in John Edward, because he has been sitting patiently and I worry that we have not heard from him.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

Basically, you hold out the prospect that, should the bill become law, it would be open to challenge in the courts.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

Is your conclusion that the Scottish ministers should not have the power to do that unilaterally?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

So there should be something on the shelf that can be pulled down, dusted off and utilised in a situation if it meets the need.