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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 11 September 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 December 2021

Stephen Kerr

So, in the circumstances that you have just described, there is no need to change the threshold to five years. An overturned conviction would take someone off the list anyway.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children and Young People (Impact of Covid)

Meeting date: 1 December 2021

Stephen Kerr

Did you say four?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children and Young People (Impact of Covid)

Meeting date: 1 December 2021

Stephen Kerr

It did not sound very much like that to me. It sounded very weak.

I ask Laura Caven the same question. What is COSLA’s position on that? Are the teachers on temporary contracts getting permanent contracts?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children and Young People (Impact of Covid)

Meeting date: 1 December 2021

Stephen Kerr

These are fundamental issues, and we want to get to the truth of the matter for the sake of Scotland’s children and young people.

On that note, I will turn to Joan Tranent. Social Work Scotland’s submission to the committee contained some interesting information about child protection that I would like you to address.

I will quote from the submission, so that you know what I am referring to. On the third page, you mention:

“An increase in demand such as child protection referrals and IRDs”—

or initial referral discussions—

“but this is not translated in to an increase in child protection registration and related activity. Referrals were received from police, rather than the previous main referrer of education”.

I am concerned about that and about the following comment, that the

“Overall number of children becoming looked after children reduced”.

I have one question for you: why did that happen during the pandemic, and what is happening now? I lied—it was two questions.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children and Young People (Impact of Covid)

Meeting date: 1 December 2021

Stephen Kerr

Are you saying that early intervention had gone out of fashion or favour?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children and Young People (Impact of Covid)

Meeting date: 1 December 2021

Stephen Kerr

I call Oliver Mundell. There he is.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children and Young People (Impact of Covid)

Meeting date: 1 December 2021

Stephen Kerr

It does not sound as though the number is much above five.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children and Young People (Impact of Covid)

Meeting date: 1 December 2021

Stephen Kerr

James Dornan will be our final questioner.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 December 2021

Stephen Kerr

We have two experts on hand to answer that question.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 December 2021

Stephen Kerr

Item 2 is evidence from the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Covid Recovery, John Swinney MSP, and his officials, on the draft regulations. I welcome the Deputy First Minister to the committee. Mr Swinney is accompanied by Lisa McCloy, head of the Scottish Government divisional development and legislation unit; and Claire Montgomery, a solicitor in the Scottish Government legal directorate.

I invite Mr Swinney to speak to the draft regulations.